Reasons Unemployed

18 Good Reasons You’re Still Unemployed


“Why am I still unemployed?”

This plaintive question is one I’m asked a great deal. I’d like to give a few brief reasons you’re still unemployed.

1. You aren’t networking enough.

Almost all jobs these days are found through networking. If you’re applying through job boards, searching the internet, counting on recruiters or responding to want ads…you’re not doing enough. And, as I’ve said elsewhere, your resume is almost useless.

2. You interview poorly.

We have interviewed a few people for a job we have open (office assistant). While this is, admittedly, a lower-level position, I’m surprised and shocked at how poorly people interview. Chewing gum, not dressing for the interview, arguing, and saying what you will and won’t do are all interview killers.

3. You’re pierced.

Take out those facial piercings! Younger generation workers — this really turns off old farts like me. I won’t hire someone with a facial piercing or visible tattoo. It is unprofessional.

4. You didn’t shave.

Don’t go in with one of those “stubble beards.” Either actually have a beard or be clean-shaven. The people who are probably making the hiring decision really, really hate the three day stubble beards that are the norm among younger men.

5. You’re asking too much money.

Look, there is a “great reset” going on. Salaries are lower these days. We interviewed one person for a $30K job who had been making $70K. Frankly, we’re not going to hire someone with that huge of a salary gap. It isn’t the problem of employers you have lived beyond your means. Everyone is tight these days. Don’t go asking for a large salary and tons of perks. You might well have to bite the bullet and take much less to get off of the unemployment rolls.

6. You’re very overqualified.

Realistically, I’m not going to hire someone with 10+ years of experience with a great deal of responsibility in their last job for an entry-level job. Entry-level jobs will be filled by entry-level people. All you do when you apply for these things is annoy the employer. I know you might be desperate. But it is better to consult or start your own business, than to apply for entry-level jobs. When I see someone with extensive experience applying for an intern job, I’m not even going to interview them. I know that they’ll be gone in a heartbeat if something in their field comes along, and that they won’t stay and grow with my company. I also know they’re going to second guess me, not be coachable and generally be a pain in the neck. Don’t bother to apply for these jobs.

7. You’re “shotgun” applying.

I made the mistake of running an ad on one of the major job boards one time. BIG mistake. Everyone and their sibling applied, even with 0% of the qualifications. The rule of thumb is — if you don’t have at least 60% of the qualifications called for, don’t apply. You’re wasting your time.

8. You smoke.

Many of us won’t hire smokers. The smell on their clothes drives off customers. They get sick more often. They take excessive breaks. And, frankly, it’s a filthy and disgusting habit. Quit and quit now. Your career future, not to mention your life and your health, may depend on it.

9. Your job title has disappeared (or is endangered).

You’re probably not going to find much in real-estate or housing now. And while Defense is currently a good industry, it is going to be cut by the current Congress, though I suspect there will always be a market for things that kill and maim. But many job titles and industries have disappeared. Some jobs are being done by robots. Others are being done by people already in the company. It might be time to go back to school or change industries.

10. Your attitude stinks.

You might be coming across as having an arrogant or generally bad attitude. If someone is not upbeat and positive, I will rapidly end the interview.

11. You’re depressed.

Many people who have been laid off and can’t find work in a hurry need anti-depressants. Get on them if you need them. Just be careful which ones you use.

Some depression is normal during a time when you’ve lost your job. But if you’re always in a dark mood, crying, unmotivated and not sleeping, see your family doctor at once.

12. You’re angry.

Your anger is not hurting the “jerks” who fired you or laid you off. It is, however, killing you physically and killing your career. Get over it. Realistically, if you were fired, you most likely deserved it. If you were laid off, it was nothing personal…just a business decision. Deal with your anger before interviewing.

13. You didn’t follow the directions in the posting.

In our last job posting, we asked for a brief statement with a resume telling us why, after looking at our website, the candidate would like to work for us. Only two people even came close to following the directions! Do what you’re asked to do in the job posting or by the hiring authority. If you’re not going to do what your potential boss asks you to, you’re not going to do what he or she asks you to when you’re employed, now, are you?

14. You missed an important piece of the interviewing process.

We asked a candidate we liked to come to one of our events and meet our clients. She wrote us an e-mail and said she couldn’t make it, but wanted to continue to the next phase of interviewing. Well, that was the next phase of interviewing! This woman had posted she had been unemployed for two years. No wonder.

15. Ya yack too much!

More extroverts talk themselves out of jobs than into them. Shut the blank up, for crying out loud! More about that here.

16. You’re evasive.

If you’re asked a question, answer it. Don’t beat around the bush, and don’t give stupid canned answers. A clear example of this is the number of people who say, when asked about a weakness, “I guess I’m just too much of a self-motivated, self-starter who is too hard on himself.” Stupid answer.

17. You can’t communicate.

Don’t make the interviewer crowbar information out of you. If you can’t communicate well, you won’t get employed. If you do happen, by some miracle, to get employed, you won’t last long.

18. You’re unprepared.

I’ll be very clear. If you go up against one of my highly prepared candidates, you’re going to lose and lose big. Don’t be cheap! Hire someone to help you with interviewing, networking and finding the hidden jobs. If you’re an executive in Denver Metro, talk to us about hiring us. If you’re elsewhere, find a good, honest career coach. But be careful. Read my article in ColoradoBiz about how to avoid job scams here.

While some people are long-term unemployed for no reason, we can usually see a reason when someone can’t seem to find a job. Those who have a great attitude and have been able to overcome depression, anger and unrealistic expectations, will usually land in a hurry. Good luck!

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John Heckers

John Heckers is president of Heckers Development Group, LTD, a consulting firm based in Denver, Colorado, specializing in Strategic Executive Coaching.


  1. I’d take any appearance advice from “fat guy in a little coat” with a grain of salt. Plus, his website looks like it just loaded, via dial-up, from 1993: Quit writing needless articles and work on your website, Johnny.

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  2. Ironically, I recently signed up with an employment agency and the receptionist, who appeared to be about 12, had a nose stud!

  3. I’ve been at the job game for more years than I should, and I’ve seen a lot of stuff, did interviews and have been the person with their resume and references in hand on the other side of the table. I do not agree with everything said here – some of it seems more like opinion than a cogent analysis of the procress. Every company is different, interviewers are different. No one thing will ever be set in stone with them all.

    Don’t just rest this – read at least five or six posts or articles similar and pick out the things you find them saying frequently. Comments on people medical conditions don’t belong in any advise column, that’s for editorials or personal blogs. When I find one stating that a medical condition is a reason why somone is not employed I find it to be dubious at best. It puts a mark on exactly how far you should take anyone’s advice, like finding something foriegn in a good meal.

  4. Hi John,

    Harsh facts! And, many comments vouch for it! I do sympathize with their plight though.

    It is painful indeed, but one has to realize that ultimately, one responsible for my life and its difficulties. Sooner, it is better. It is a sad fact that people get very frustrated on suffering for a long time, and begins to find fault with anyone who offers a helping guideline.

    Of all the 18 reasons you’ve listed here, I would rate ‘Getting Angry over one’s plight is the most damaging reason, and is mother of the rest!’

  5. Career coach is a paid job. Like insurance, they convince you that you need them and like insurance there is only a small risk that you actually will benefit from it. Even if we would all do exactly what they tell us to do – the unemployment number would still stay the same. The only truth there is, is to be YOU at all times and YOU are unique. YOU don’t want a potential employer to hire you for something you are not.

  6. Laid Off Healthcare Guy

    Here’s the kicker guys: Heckers is dead. Yes, that’s right, deceased, and has been since December 2012. See this link: Also, this link: The second is his widow’s website as she is apparently a spiritual healer/life coach/quack of some sort. On that site you will read memorial posts by friends. His LinkedIn profile now links to his widow and his Twitter feed has only a half dozen posts for all of 2013.

    So the next time you read an intolerant Heckers article that spews disdain for millenials, the long-term unemployed, or anyone who doesn’t subscribe to his views of what matters in the workplace, just remember that the man is gone and those who subscribe to his dogma are soon to follow in the coming years.

    • Wow! That’s a shocker. And he was only 56! I would not wish death on anyone, but this almost seems like poetic justice. (As an aside, I saw pics of him, and the man was dangerously overweight, which I don’t doubt hastened his demise.)

      Nevertheless, this is the hands down most pompous, arrogant article I have ever read on this subject. Add #19 to the list of reasons why you are unemployed: You’re dead.

  7. Being laid off is busness and not personal, huh? Then why, since being laid off a year ago, I’ve applied perhaps 15-20 yimes for the same job I did for 13+ years in the same department at the same company, as both a full-timer and contractor, only to be told I “lack the necessary skills”…?

  8. Gee John… I guess you told me. Since I’m doing everything wrong, would you mind paying my Student Loan bill while I work for minimum wage?

    Comments seriatem (BTW, for those that I am forced to work for, that means, in series, by the numbers… )

    1. You aren’t networking enough.
    Of course I’m not networking enough. I’m an Introvert (INTJ) and struggle with Asperger’s. So that makes me ineligible to be hired? I also live over 200 miles from a city of any size and cannot afford to move (no I have no assets to sell). Not that living within commuting range of the Chicago Loop helped that much either…

    2. You interview poorly.
    Could I get an interview or two to use as a baseline? Please? The last real Interview I had was with the CIA just before 9-11… then all hiring stopped and I “aged out” of the .gov system…

    3. You’re pierced.
    Even if I were, it would be nowhere you could see…

    4. You didn’t shave.
    Which bit? My face or head? If I don’t shave my head, I end up looking like Dilbert’s Pointy Haired Boss…

    5. You’re asking too much money.
    I’m asking for A JOB. Being paid $30K for a $70K job is better than giving IOUs to the grocer…

    6. You’re very overqualified.
    Duh. Only the most inept, unmotivated, ill-educated candidate these days is NOT “overqualified”. Welcome to the overselling of College Degrees.

    7. You’re “shotgun” applying.
    Shotgun is all I have. If I could go Nuclear I would.

    8. You smoke.
    OK. You got me here. I don’t smoke. Nor do I burst into flames or take un-prescribed medications.
    Will you hire me now?

    9. Your job title has disappeared (or is endangered).
    I don’t have a “job title”, unless you consider “Killing People and Breaking Things” (US Military Combat Arms) a “job title”… and I don’t do that any more…

    10. Your attitude stinks.
    I’ve been unemployed/under employed for 13 years. My “attitude” is 100% pragmatic and 0% Fluff. I will show you what I can and will do for your company. And if I don’t offer that immediately, just ask.

    11. You’re depressed.
    Duh. I’ve been unemployed/under employed for 13 years and have the Feds on my back for unpaid Student Loans and no one will take me seriously because I’m “overqualified”…

    12. You’re angry.
    Duh. I’ve been unemployed/under employed for 13 years and have the Feds on my back for unpaid Student Loans and no one will take me seriously because I’m “overqualified”……

    13. You didn’t follow the directions in the posting.
    Yes… Yes I did. You just dumped my file before you ever got to this point.

    14. You missed an important piece of the interviewing process.
    Ohhh, so you discard people off hand without finding out WHY they were unable to make an arbitrary meeting? Sorry, I was in the back of my ambulance defibrillating your mother while volunteering as an EMT during my period of unemployment. I guess I shouldn’t have helped her live. …

    15. Ya yack too much!
    I’m an Introvert. I’ve been told I don’t talk enough. Sorry if I can’t read your mind.
    16. You’re evasive.
    I’m Blunt. It’s a “feature” of Aspergers. It also gets me disqualified. Could you teach me what the appropriate “middle ground” is?

    17. You can’t communicate.
    BS. I communicate quite well. Apparently you have an issue defining the appropriate “middle ground” between #16 & #17.

    18. You’re unprepared.
    I’ve been so prepared I’ve scared the HR lackey into tremors. When the HR lackey does not know the acronyms for the quantitative measurements necessary to develop a QC matrix for a specific position… what’s the point of being “prepared?

    19. Don’t be cheap! Hire someone to help you with interviewing, networking and finding the hidden jobs.
    Ah… “Don’t be poor”. Don’t be a candidate who has been living hand to mouth for a dozen years. Got it.
    Sorry that you wasted my time…

  9. “If you were laid off, it was nothing personal…just a business decision.” If only hiring managers / recruiters also felt that way instead of labeling the laid off as having something wrong with them.

  10. Aren’t Networking enough? Okay then, what’s the solution? Instead of just pointing out what’s wrong through this article why not point out what’s wrong and then offer an actual solution. Such as how should one network themselves?

    And even if a person does all that, then what? Just give up?

  11. I got laid off with several other people a month ago. From a well-known insurance company. When I started there,14 years ago, we had to dress in dress pants and shirts or conservative dresses. Fridays we could wear nice jeans and casual shirts, no t-shirts. What a change in 14 years. Now all of us wore jeans, holes and the fake bleached and worn look. Shirts with fancy or weird designs. Or advertising our favorite beer, bar or sports team. Long hair on guys. One guy had a pony tail down to his butt, tattoos and wore his biker colors with pride. Women had tattoos and dyed hair. One girl had pink hair for awhile. People wore stuff like this, regardless of their income. If Mr Heckers came to my job, he would’ve had a coronary.

  12. The truth is that Hecklers is a proponent of the master/slave construct. If you don’t get the job it’s your fault not the hiring manager who just so happens to be bi-polar and borderline schizophrenic. With as many people out of work and having trouble finding jobs it can’t be all our fault anymore. I refuse to let these guys off the hook. We’ve bent over as far as we can go and can go no further. I met another of Hecklers kind this week. Wrote about it…

  13. It’s an employer’s market, they can be as fussy and stuffy as they want about the hiring process. But, you can also start your own company or business, become an independent contractor, or otherwise find your own path. As for beard-guy, well…

  14. Many good points in the author’s article here, but people need to see this for what it ultimately is… a sales pitch. The blog equivalent of an infomercial. He’s selling the services of his consulting company, and his training appears to be tough and demanding, and aimed at the more top end clients. An “interview boot-camp”, if you will. I don’t think he meant to offend anybody.

    • I agree with the comment about the difficulty of hiring a coach while unemployed. And I do resent being called “cheap” for not doing it. Also, regarding the question “what is your weakness” I see as being asked because the interviewer doesn’t know what else to say. Maybe a more telling interview direction would be probing how the candidate can add value to the company, but nonetheless, Mr. Heckers, what do you see as good answer to a question meant to sink you on your interview?

    • And you’re a fool if you don’t take his advice. Regardless of whether it’s a sales pitch or not, what he is saying is valid. The real truth behind this article is that more people do these things than not. People today are truly unprepared (#18) and I think it’s just pure laziness. I know several life coaches in small market…there’s a reason there’s so many…they’re needed! Let me guess…you’re unemployed

      • Actually, I have a full time job that pays well. But thanks for being a dick anyway. Maybe you and Rip Torn can have a baby together and torment it to suicide. Or maybe you just need a life coach.

      • It’s funny how you take advice from people at the very bottom of the barrel, who try to take advantage of the unemployed. High friends in low places?

  15. Everyone , please stop blaming and shooting the messenger. What he says is true, whether we like it or not. I have been unemployed for almost 10 years now. I had to give up smoking 5 years ago because I could not afford it any longer. Hiring managers do have their personal prejudices. Illegal as the discriminations might be, they exist and always will. Some hiring managers are just plain stupid as are their bosses for continuing to keep them employed. Do you really want to work for a dumbazz anyway ? Really, we all need $$$, but ultimately will be unhappy working for them anyway. There is a certain “type” that people want to hire. If you really prefer your tattooed, pierced, orange,purple,and pink cotton candy hair, and rebellious individuality , feel free. Conform and increase your chances of being hired or quitcherbitchin.

  16. I completely disagree with comments on this article that claim the writer is too harsh. If an unemployed person can’t bear the reality of what it takes to return to the world of income generating work efforts, then they will either never get a job or never keep one! We all need to put on our big person britches, put our over-sensitivity and childhood emotion aside, and carry on.

    My only objection to this article is to one of the last comments. Virtually everyone I know and everyone I meet who is among the unemployed can ill afford an interview trainer or a job coach,. Some can’t even pay their rent or their car notes or even afford to put food on the table. A job coach? Are you serious? Hello?????

    • “If an unemployed person can’t bear the reality of what it takes to return to the world of income generating work efforts, then they will either never get a job or never keep one!”
      Wow, that’s not harsh? (Not to mention ridiculous.)
      There are millions upon millions of people out of work, and I doubt that all of them are unemployed because they neglected to don their “big person britches!” For one, there are very few jobs out there. In case you haven’t heard, many jobs have been shipped overseas, and others have become obsolete due to the changing nature of technology and the workforce. Furthermore, there is a tremendous amount of discrimination against older workers, even those (like me) who have continually updated their skills. So should we fault the unemployed for these factors, that are beyond our control?
      I might add that I am not unemployed; I am just vastly underemployed, despite that I am highly educated, hard-working and possess top skills. And like many others, I have worked my fingers to the bone in an effort to find more viable employment, to no avail.
      I can’t speak for others, but I am sure that there are many who – like me – are far from lazy, want to work, have tried every avenue to obtain work that at least pays a reasonable living wage and are, in fact, hard-working and responsible.
      So perhaps you might try getting off your high horse, and get real.

      • Don’t let people like this get to you. They are completely detached from reality. There are more unemployed in this country then the entire populations of New York, Chicago, and Los Angeles combined. Moreover large economic hubs (which are typically viewed as job hubs) are the worst off with unemployment at or above 10% (e.g, Chicago). All of this crap is mute as long as companies aren’t hiring. Plain and simple. And blaming the unemployed just confirms the shear idiocy of these people. For example, I currently work a full time job, but am looking for opportunities. It took me 2 years to find my current job. In the past six months I’ve been applying, I have had less than a 0.1% response rate. The problem with people like Darcie is that she has probably been working at the same job for the past 20 years. Little does she know that times have changed, and people like her are going the way of the dodo bird. Tough crap Darcie, deal with it. Enjoy your working “retirement”, that’s if you can find a job.

    • This guy is right, but he’s also kind of wrong.

      “It’s not my fault if you over-extended yourself” is a smug arrogant response to someone who earned a certain wage, and had it pulled out from under them.

      Especially when he follows it up in #18 with “Don’t be cheap!”

      The author is kind of a d—.

    • I don’t take issue with presenting cold hard facts, I do however, take issue with the tone used to present these facts. Not only is the author belligerent, arrogant, and sarcastic, he clearly has a triple case of numbers 10 and 12. I’m extremely disappointed in Careerealism for supporting such a negative laden article that surmises the unemployed are not working by choice. Furthermore, take #6 and #9: he chastises the applicant for applying for an entry level position, yet in #9 sarcastically addresses disappearing positions!!!! Did it ever occur to the author that the applicant considers an entry level job to be far superior to no job at all, maybe the applicant has children to feed, rent to pay???. I can punch many more holes in this less than acceptable article but I would only be repeating may others here. A suggestion for the folks at Careerealism: Subscribers expect to come to this site for insightful information, i.e. hard cold facts presented in a professional manner. The unemployed need helpful hints and tips to inspire them during what may be the worst and hardest time of their lives, they don’t need articles that are condescending. If this article is representative of the negativity that is forthcoming, I will be unsubscribing.

    • Hey Darcie??

      You should really stay out of forums like this. It might upset your sensitive tummy while you take down your second double mocha mint latte’ of the morning on your way to your trust fund meeting.

      I hope your life continues on it’s happy course because it’s obvious you’d be completely unprepared for the alternative.

      Remember the first rule of communication. Tell what you KNOW not what you THINK you KNOW..

  17. I have a tiny nose stud I got at age 50 and I will keep it. I don’t understand what the big deal is I am more than a piece of jewlery.

    • Good for you Angel.
      I also had a subtle ‘new agey’ piercing at 51. Individuality is essential to my philosophy. All this mindless (old fashioned)
      nonsense, Bosses, stop superficially judging people. You don’t want to employ people who have ; peircings, beards ect ect. How exhaustive is the list? Do you just want compliant, obedient sheep. Are those with creativity, and they’re own ideas a bit too much for you. It’s 2013 so change your outdated attitudes BOSSES. I’m bored of hearing about the requirements of the bosses. No masters and no slaves.

    • This author apparently only interviews one type of person. I have a whole bunch of coworkers who wear one little nose stud. They’re Indian. I think it’s pretty common for them to wear little nose studs.

  18. While it is unfortunate, the choices you make can sometimes affect others. Smoking, while smoking is a choice you make in life, it will eventually cause health problems. If the hiring company provides medical insurance, they know your smoking will cause them higher premiums. In addition, who will do your job when you are out sick for days or months?? Some of the higher costs will also impact the employees. Another choice is over weight, while it is your business what unhealthy diet you choose, the expense of heart problems, high cholesterol, and diabetes takes its toll on companies who provide insurance. It is unfortunate that aging is not a choice because none of us would choose to age!! While it is wrong to discriminate on age, we all know it happens and again insurance premiums and time off work for age related illnesses are a big part of it. Tattoo’s are another choice you have a right to make but when your tattoo’s offend potential business clients or patrons, this will also impact the hiring company.
    The other night I had a car behind me on a dark one-lane road, he wanted to go faster than the speed limit, I did not. He was almost on my bumper. It was very scary. It was a country road with a lot of curves and a favorite area of grazing deer. Yes it was his choice to go faster than the speed limit as it was my choice not to. If there had been a place to pull over and let him go past me, I would have but there was not. All I could think of was what if a deer jumps out and I have to slam on my brakes? His car would plow into mine! His choice to drive reckless could have killed us both! (Sorry for any grammar errors)

  19. I see 18 bad reasons why you wont hire a candidate. your attitude stinks. I am a smoker but my clothing doesn’t smell, I wont smoke before an interview to be considerate of the interviewer. If the job site says non smokers … smokers wont apply for the position or wont smoke on the job. Tattoos I have on my wrist but I wear long sleeves even in the summer during interviews. Unless you just DON’T like the person. stop nit picking at little things, money, tattoos, piercing, smokers.
    We are Americans we have the RIGHT do to what ever we want to ourselves. Because you are against it doesn’t mean we wouldn’t be able to do the job. Most of the time you hire someone and they turn out to be the worst person but because of their appearance was satisfying to your taste you gave them the opportunity. When 90% of the time tattoo, pierced smoker wants the job who is unemployed trying to do the right thing will surprise you and be the best candidate for the position.
    Instead of bashing someone for what they look like find better 18 reasons why you shouldn’t give a person a job.
    I have a great resume and I include professional cover letters, Interview great . I have interviewers telling me i’m wonderful, resume looks great but i’m not experienced enough. Whats wrong with that…. if it is just an entry level give a person a chance to prove you wrong. That’s the best part of the 90 day trials.


  20. Instead of a lot of near-useless banter re-hashing things most professional job seekers already know, there are much more valid reasons why good people can’t find decent jobs. The primary issue is, of course, the economy – an economy in which employers have the leverage and can be really, really mean – and particular. So particular in fact, they are narrowing their criteria to progressive experience within a particular industry in addition to very narrowly tailored skill sets right down to the type of software or program you might operate only one hour a day (ridiculous). Secondly, it’s getting around the human resource information systems that gather applicant data and filter candidates. Being ‘over qualified” is a ridiculous exclusion criteria that has no validity – all companies want the best talent. Good people are constantly being excluded and overlooked because of automation exclusion, nepotism and word-of-mouth hiring along with a near discriminatory bias against the unemployed and those with lapse in employment of more than 6 mos. It’s a farce, my friends. Your best bet is to create a “new” resume for each job and use key words in your resume (particularly job title – that’s a very important matching filter) that match skill sets and key competencies the employer is seeking in its ad. The trick is staying truthful and maintaining your standards and self-esteem in the process though. One last comment to lift your spirits to some degree: One simulated experiment (researched by a Cornell Univ. professor) found that around half (I believe) of the employees already working at a large organization were rejected by their own company’s applicant system when they tried “applying”! Not to worry, I’m also having difficulty getting interviews too, my friends – even with my master’s degree. Unlike this article, I am confident IT IS NOT YOU – it’s a flawed, brutal and often times unfair system, my friends. Best to you all in your searches nevertheless.

    • @ Susannah Kay: I believe you struck the nail on its head, and quite precisely, too. Having over 38 years in the workforce I can tell you have seen the writing on the wall, and your interpretation matches mine. What people tend to forget with their platitudes and motivational pumping-up is the simple fact that there have always been, and likely always will be, class divisions which divide mankind: Royalty, landowners (the rich); those who manage to wrangle a position to serve them (servant class); and those who cannot even manage that and suffer the greatest privations for most if not all of their lives (the wretched poor). In fact, it wasn’t until the past two centuries that a ‘middle class’ emerged, yet they are still only a remnant of the servant class which has always been with us. What offends most of us I believe is the fact that since so many have gained their independence both in terms of personal liberty and autonomy along with the ability to earn a living wage, we have failed to keep an eye on those who are managing things and events behind the scenes and their lackeys. The author of this article seems to belong in the latter class, much like the scheming priests and advisers of past centuries, these sycophantic poseurs postulate, prance and obsequiously prostrate themselves before the rich and powerful, yet position themselves as superior to those not fortunate enough to have achieved their position, rank though it may be (I use ‘rank here as adjective indicative of odor). Ultimately everything that happens in our lives is part what happens to us and what our reaction to it is, with a little bit of Fate thrown in. Our attitude is the only string we have to play upon, and it is incumbent upon us to master the tune which will best serve our interests, goals and needs. Nothing less will provide for our happiness and well-being more than taking responsibility for being the best at expressing our most productive, adaptable, flexible and fluid attitude possible. For those who consider themselves so far above us will not be impressed with anything less, indeed, if they even take any notice at all.

      Finally, the fact that this guy is touting himself as an ‘old fart’ should set off alarms; there are always going to be people who get stuck in a rut, closed their minds long ago such that the locks are rusted shut. Your attitude will also help you avoid dealing with these poor souls, and spare you pitying them, because you know the truth: they gave up monitoring their attitude long ago.











    So Mr. Heckers…Careful with making judgment!

  22. This is like me saying to you (John Heckers) i do not wish to employ you because you’re over weight, now to some people they might find what i just wrote is immature, but you wont employ people because of appearance and there choices which i find how completely outrageous.
    I am sure when you read the overweight part you frowned or hesitated, well that is how we felt when you said we smoke, have tattoos, non fully grown facial hair and piercings.
    Now that i have put you in our situation how does it feel? a bit cloudy perhaps? of course it does never judge a book by its cover, you want to read the contents to see if its at your satisfaction.
    for the people reading this comments basically what Mr Heckers is saying to us is that we are not allowed choices and not allowed to do what we like to our appearance.
    You need to rethink your 18 points Mr Heckers because frankly i am disgusted in your racial remarks.

    • You pretty much said everything I was thinking. Some of these points are extremely discriminatory.

      Obesity is often a choice, much like tattoos or piercings, though for many people tattoos and piercings are reminders of good, great things that mark milestones in their lives. They make people feel good, and often aid in a positive and healthy outlook in life.

      Unfortunately, not all people see it this way. It’s ok though – alternative body modifications are becoming more popular. So when we have our old, wrinkly tattoos, let’s remember not to discriminate in the way John has!

      Way to put it Dan! I only hope he actually read your comment!

      • Yeah, you’re right Kira–obesity is a choice. I have PCOS and hypothyroidism and to combat these disorders which adversely affect my metabolism, I take my medication, only eat 500 calories a day (net calories after puking up breakfast and lunch), take an anti-depressant to combat the grouchiness from not eating all to maintain a normal weight. I do all of this on top of two hours of cardio a day, seven days a week. If I can do it, everyone else can too. NO EXCUSES!

        • brittany, if your puking up breakfast and lunch, only eating 500 calories a day and on top of that likely burning most of those 500 calories with 2 hours of cardio, then you are just as or even possibly less healthy then someone who is extremely obese. if you have a disease that lowers your metabolism which you said you do, then it pretty much is not a choice for you to be overweight, and you are literally killing yourself by doing what you’re doing to prevent being overweight. i also have another problem with overweight people being discriminated against in job applications like this. from the reasons why someone may not be hired for one of these 18 reasons, i would say that 70 to 80 percent of americans should be unemployed, not 8 percent. i mean almost everyone in america has at least one of the criteria listed in this article, and then add age discrimination to the mix and you have pretty much everyone in america on the do not hire list.

          • Ummm….I got the impression Brittany was being sarcastic. But that may be because I know someone with PCOD and who is under treatment for hypothyroidism and taking antidepressants as well. It’s a combination that’s guaranteed to leave you at least moderately overweight, if not obese. PCOD creates insulin resistance, so you can’t regulate blood sugar well. Antidepressants increase hunger signals so you feel the need to eat more. And hypothyroidism slows your metabolism down so even a diet of half the normal calories is enough to maintain, or gain, weight.

            I think she made a good point – obesity is *sometimes* a choice, but frankly, there are plenty of people who have conditions that make it closer to inevitable than optional. Kira’s post comes off as being a bit judgemental despite her disagreeing with the blogger.

    • Dan, my thoughts exactly. I wonder why he didn’t list being overweight as a reason for being unemployed. I guess the pot didn’t want to call the kettle black in this case. As for the shaving part, this guy should take a look in the mirror. That beard makes him look like a werewolf.

    • I read most of the thread and this is exactly whats wrong with this generation..too entitled and unrealistic. Unfortunately weight is not an indicator of how inadequate you would be in an office job because a lot of CEOs, Managers and bosses are overweight in America. PERIOD. So suck that one up and get over it. Visible Tattoos and piercings (other than earrings on females) have always been unacceptable. I dont agree with the smoking comment however it helps not to smell offensive or smokey on an interview..thats just common sense. Michael Bloomberg definitely will not hire you if you smelled of smoke..ridiculous perhaps but he is the BOSS. You are obviously very young, inexperienced and plain out ignorant. Mr. Heckers is keeping it real..he is a BOSS so it would help to listen to him and perhaps you will find a way to get over the fact that you are either unemployed or working at or just above minimum wage. To get paid you have to play the game. PLAIN & SIMPLE. You might not like it but these corporations or companies are looking for people they can trust and mold to do the job they want them to do. Thats life and thats business. You also need to go back to school or if you are there pay attention. There was nothing racist about his requirements for a hire. You need to differentiate between discrimination and racism.. not the same thing. Corporations and companies want the best representation and visible tattoos and piercings are a distraction from that. It may not be “fair” but life is not fair and you have to go with what is standard when it comes to being hired. Historically weight is not a problem with office jobs however tattoos and piercing are which you will have to accept if you want to excel in the corporate world. There are rules and regulations in this life whether you follow them or not. Learn to listen and exist within structure then you can be your own boss be tattooed up and pierced up which can still make people ie your clients not want to deal with you…so much for you to learn. And change your attitude, you are way too defensive. SMH

      • I may be young, but I’m much smarter than you. If you would like to get technical, you seem to be something akin to a lemming. I guess if you are running a business, then you have to know your customer base. Wonder who that might be? No worries, everyone invariably goes the way of the dodo bird.






  24. You know what for people to say just because you have tattoo,s ie another human being, and say im unprofessional is wrong. You are concentrating on the ink on my arms and not looking at me as a human being. Im tired of this approach, so what about my life, am i not to follow what i wan,t to do and i have to worry about how i am viewed by other human beings, that is a warped minded approach. There are many people who are dong wrong in the work place and underhanded beusiness deals made to look all good, and that involves a lot of sutied professional people, we see that all the time, so to judge people with tattoos is clouded approach and view. I no they only say this as to think it will bring a bad look on the business. or they employer would feel embarresed in the work place with regards to this, so this is all i can be nothing more, just becasue another human being says so, but if david beckham or ozzy osbourne or the 100,s of other people walked into the work place you would have nothig to say to them, why because they are rich. So why can you not give another human being the same view or same actions, why and how do you know on only a gues alone that i would be no good as a employee, excactly you don,t and you are making judgement on me for art, you are so blind this day and age, your thoughts betray you and you are judging me.

  25. I’m extremely confused by this article, and by Human Resources in general.

    I have watched extremely unskilled, idiotic men and women go into job interviews and get hired immediately, only to be fired within 2 weeks of being hired. One man in particular (my cousin’s ex-boyfriend) has had over 50 jobs in the last 5 years in all sorts of industries. He’s applied for entry level, mid-level, and even highly skilled jobs, and has been hired for nearly all of them. How does he do this? He lies through his teeth, makes up really impressive bull crap, and tells the human resources people exactly what they want to hear.

    Anybody can get a job by being a con artist. But for those of us who are honest men and women, with morals; those who have humble personalities and who believe that our actions speak louder than words, (you know, the people who you actually WANT to work for you), I guess we’re not what companies are looking for. Why take a chance on a quiet, depressed person when you can get conned by cheerful liars that make wonderful first impressions?

    This has nothing to do with the people applying for the job. This is about hiring managers being stuck in a culture-wide Groupthink epidemic. They all read the same propaganda about how to do their jobs, how to identify good workers, XY theory, and all the crap they were indoctrinated with in universities.

    The truth is that hiring managers are more concerned with keeping their own jobs. Anybody they take a risk on might end up causing the hiring manager to look bad. But if they stick with their Officially Approved Magical List of Arbitrary Criteria Required for Hiring Somebody, then when the worker is a lying con artist and has no skill or talent, the hiring manager can say “Hey, it wasn’t MY fault. The guy lied to me. Nobody could have EVER seen that coming. I’m not a lie detector, I’m a hiring manager.”

  26. Mr. Heckers comments were meant to be “in your face” and get a rise out of people–clearly, he succeeded. Those who are the most insecure and have too much time on their hands respond with the most emotions (rather than common sense) and are probably doing what he recommends you don’t do.

    His delivery certainly could have been more professional. However, he didn’t lie or give false information. The 18-points are valid. I recommend moving past the poor delivery and looking at another article offering the same advice but in a nicer manner. The negative energy you spend responding negatively is energy you can be using in a positive manner to find employment.

    • See I take issue with this, simply because you’re trying to validate someone else’s opinions as facts. They are opinions, and I’ve yet to see a single shred of evidence to suggest that anything Mr. Heckler (aka “Rip Torn”) said is true. Moreover, his reasons completely ignore the fact that there was a massive stock market crash in 2005. In 2005, less than 4% of Americans were unemployed. The fact that there has been a huge spike in long term unemployment and underemployment is not the fault of the employee or job candidates. If you genuinely believe that it is, then you are as detached from reality as this schmuck.

    • there are real, genuine problems with the rationality and logic of many of these “criteria” for why people are not getting hired. Some of them seem arbitrary at best, and contradictory at worst. No piercings? How many women do you know that don’t have pierced ears? That just sounds like a way to exclude women from working for you. “Well, it only applies to men with pierced ears.” Then you’re discriminating against men. And what does facial hair have to do with it? You might as well say “Shave your head, we only hire bald men.” The rationality is absurd.

      The only things on this list that make ANY sense, are numbers 5, 7, 9, and 13. Everything else on the list is complete malarkey! “Don’t talk too much” is immediately followed by “Don’t make the interviewer crowbar information out of you.” Well, which is it? And where along the spectrum do you find this magical, mysterious medium between “being too succinct” and “talking too much”? Then there’s the contradiction of the last thing on the list about “Don’t be unprepared” and the earlier reason of “Don’t give prepared answers to interview questions”. So should we prepare for the interview questions ahead of time, or should we not? He says he won’t hire an unprepared person, but if the person gives a prepared answer (the article calls them “stupid canned answers”) then they won’t be hired either.

      If only 4 of your 18 reasons for not hiring somebody are rationally coherent, then maybe you are the one who shouldn’t have a job. Because if less than 25% of your decisions are based on rationality, I’d say that’s a good reason why you would be unemployed. But oh, wait, that’s not on your list. So I guess you’ll still find some poor idiot you can con into giving you a job.

  27. No comments from Mr. Heckers? If he has been reading the comments, maybe he’s changed his tune on some of his issues.

  28. Yes, I am very over qualified and I have been unemployed for 18 months. Yes, I have and will continue to apply for jobs that are low-entry level jobs because I have bills to pay or maybe I should just default on all of those student loans since I can’t use the education that I am paying for because there are no jobs in the area (yes, I am willing to relocate but guess what, that takes money too) where I live. What is so funny is that I am a certified teacher with two master’s degrees and I am considered high qualified in four different content areas.

    • Ms. Pruett: Have you considered online teaching? Are you on LinkedIn? Is your resume 100% flawless? Do you interview well? Are you getting interviews?

      • The problem isn’t Ms. Pruett, it’s that the economy severely contracted 5 years ago, and she got kicked to the curb like many Americans. Ms. Pruett isn’t getting interviews because she hasn’t worked in 18 months. The response rate on identical resumes is statistically correlated with time of unemployment. E.g., the response rate at 0-3 months of unemployment is approx 10% … and to cut to the point … 12+ months is less that 1%. Welcome to America!

    • They don’t want smart, educated, rational people working for them. That’s the common denominator among all the 18 Reasons listed. He even hinted at that in the Overqualified section. “I also know they’re going to second guess me, not be coachable and generally be a pain in the neck.”

      They don’t want to hire people who think for themselves. Highly skilled people are smart, and might second-guess the decisions made by upper management, which is a “pain in the neck”. You know, because when they are doing stuff that is illegal, immoral, and bad for the company, they don’t want any of those pesky little whistle-blowers working for them. They don’t even want good little worker bees, because even worker bees can sting you if you mess with them.




  29. Amen on the McJobs. There is only one surefire way to get a real job anywhere above that. Trumps education, experience and everything else. Doesn’t require all the job applications, job fairs, resume’s and interviews bs. All you have to do is… Know Somebody.

    • I find that being a very good liar is also a surefire way of getting a real job. You may not keep it very long, but convincing liars are the ones most likely to be hired by the above-mentioned hiring process.

  30. Are you f***ing kidding me?!?
    The only attainable jobs by honest people jobs these days are McJobs.
    Getting a real career in today’s job market requires you to either bend over, get on your knees, or step on co-workers on your way to the top, or a combination of all those!

  31. I don’t know–reading the comments (and the article), I have to say, each of you is right…but some of the article comes off as “Well, I have a job, why don’t you?” The attitude is abrasive, elitist, and worst of all, condescending! In this day and age, you mean to tell me that people don’t know at least 10 of your 18 reasons? It’s as if all you have to do is follow each of your 18 rules, and presto, change-o, domino, you have a job! I AM those 18 reasons, and as of yet, have not found a job. However, I may find one sooner than I think, if talking down to your readers is what passes as writing. (Hey, I can do that too! Put yourself in the shoes of your readers and DO NOT come off as an elitist, I did it, so why don’t you know-it-all. Everyone can do that.)

  32. Like a lot of people posting on here. None of these have ever applied to me. I am a 25 year old who got his GED when I was 18. Got my GED AND My 1st job on my 18th birthday. ( For real no joke ) I have 6 /1/2 years of work EXP, From working in Cleaning and in Fast food.

    My last job fell over and closed down now I am looking for work. As said above – Nothing on this list applies to be me. I don’t smoke or own a cellphone. I don’t have a family. have amazing time keeping as I have only taken off 1 week total out of 6 1/2 years of work. I do my job to the letter and never fuss or whine. I have 4 letters of recommendation. I have no problems answering interview
    questions to the point I don’t have to think – I cant look at my interview and answer in a flash and with a smile.

    What am I doing wrong? I have 9 APP’s in no call for anywhere. This list is wrong in so many ways.

    • You have to understand that this bozo is a babyboomer. He grew up during a time when you could walk down the street and find a job. He doesn’t understand that our economy is still recovering from a massive financial collapse, and that most companies are in a hiring freeze. You see, the author is so delusional that he honestly believes that the US went from 4% unemployment in 2007 to 10% in 2009 because of a surge in tattoos. No matter what, this man is going to think that it’s always the employees fault. He made this, blah blah blah, and the like. However, when pressed he can’t produce good reasons why unemployment amongst 18-25 year olds is >20%. The guy’s a schmuck.

    • Your not doing anything wrong. change up your resume once in awhile . write a cover letter to whom your trying to get the job with, do follow up emails or phone calls. Go a little out of your area and search i’m having better luck looking in different cities.

  33. I think the author of the article did a pretty good job of hitting upon some hiring manager presuppositions and prejudices that go on in every company that make their way into official and unofficial hiring practices. Judging by the comments from posters over the years here, many if not most have prejudices and presuppositions of their own, but pretty much validates much of what the author said about why folks are still unemployed. Your attitude shows through in job interviews, I know: I’ve been in hiring manager positions for Fortune 500 companies over a 25-year period. Your first big hurdle with any hiring manager is to be likeable, and some comments posted here betray pretty lousy attitudes that just might become visible during a job interview.

  34. I think the author pretty much nailed a lot of the presuppositions and prejudices hiring managers bring with them to the job. No, it’s not fair; no it’s not right, but just looking at a lot of the comments here convinces me that many applicants are loaded down the prejudices and presuppositions of their own. Want to work your way through the minefield of hiring manager prejudice and assumptions? Ask for the free eBook, STACKING THE DECK: Make Yourself the Hiring Manager’s Candidate of Choice at I’ve got 25 years experience in various hiring manager positions for Fortune 500 companies. The ebook is free, no strings.

  35. The author of this article is a ManBearPig. Look at that face. He says either have a beard or be clean-shaven, no three day stubble. Yet he himself has a scraggly goatee, or is it a raccoon skin, I can’t really tell. Here in Los Angeles his crap brown suit and shirt screams “Hiya, I’m from a small village in Kyrckghistoadstan”. Does he buy his clothes at gas stations? Brooks Brothers, dude, look it up. There is nothing new, nothing more than obvious common sense here. There’s a reason he’s a “consultant” and it’s all his fault.

  36. I was just hired by a major TV network here in Los Angeles. While excited for me, my current co-workers asked me several times, “How did you get it? Who do you know?” No one- I applied to the posting, was called by a recruiter, brought in for 2 interviews with the department/team, brought in for an additional interview with the head of HR, and received an offer letter a few days after that. I had names from around the company I could have dropped but with it being such a huge company I didn’t see the point. Their offer is for $22k more than I currently earn and the benefits are much better. So it IS possible to land a great job because of your experience and merit. I do agree with companies being turned off by a smoker – the entire studio lot I’m doing to is a completely smoke-free environment. But the company provides a full-time program to help its employees quit.

    • Pointy Haired Boss

      I approve of this article

      The truth about unrealistic employers wanting God like employees for Scrooge like pay must not come to light

  37. Floating Back Teeth

    thank you for the Career advice Rip Torn, I loved you in Dodge ball and Men in Black

  38. This guy is part of the down fall that is employment. You can tell from the way he speaks that even if you follow these steps, he still wouldn’t hire you unless he likes you. He is an peasent that thinks he is an gentleman.

  39. What I don’t understand is why companies avoid experienced workers. What happened to global competitiveness? If an experienced worker is willing to work at entry level pay then why are employers shunning them?! Am I missing something? When the economy rebounds wouldn’t it be assuring to have a highly qualified team??!! Does it mean that employers in the U.S. are willing to hibernate and not compete?? I guess I’m missing something.

  40. Lesson 1 – Drop your standards and self respect.

    Employers don’t like having people with ideas.

    Lesson 2 – Smile and nod
    They will talk endless, but don’t bother talking back, you have nothing to contribute, they obviously know everything.

    Lesson 3 – Sell your soul

    No need for improvement. No need to dream, because they’ll remind you every time you do, that you are at the bottom, and they are at the top.


    Lesson 4 – If you are a scumbag, you can probably weasel your way to the top with the rest of the demons ruining the world.

    So good luck to you all!

    • This is incredibly negative and defeatist. Check your attitude, it needs adjustment upwards. You are better than that which you are projecting, even though I agree with your basic premises (nudge, wink!). You know you’re not about to give up and give in because you’re better than that. Best of luck to you (though some would define luck as Laboring Under Correct Knowledge.

  41. What sets people’s teeth on edge is not the substance of Heckers’ advice, which is probably true, but the self-satisfied tone he uses, as if these are all self-evident, axiomatic laws set in stone throughout time. Certainly first impressions count, and being skilled in a interview situation is always important, but many of these items involve things a perfectly viable job candidate cannot possibly help. It’s absolutely absurd to exclude candidates for employment simply because they used to make too much money or because they used to have too much responsibility. I cannot see Heckers’ purpose in chiding job- seekers for things they cannot change… he perhaps implying they should lie on their résumé?

    I don’t know if this helps, but some (not all) job- seekers who’ve endured repeated frustrations might want to ” think outside the box”, to borrow a hackneyed bit of corporate- speak Heckers probably uses all the time. Anxiety comes, not from any particular set of circumstances, but from fear of the unknown. preparing for a worst- case scenario might give the frustrated job- seeker some sense of control. A spell of homelessness, for example, certainly wouldn’t kill a young, single person with and a $15/month gym membership to stay clean and well-groomed. And starting one’s own business, which usually does require some startup capital, can be within reach if one is willing to buy used equipment and shop around for suppliers. Articulate, white-collar types may want to try professional writing, which doesn’t require anything more than the computer they probably already have.

  42. It’s the self-satisfied, superior tone, (not necessarily the substance of the advice, which is probably true) of so many of these self-styled career “experts” that sets people’s teeth on edge. Mr. Hecker presents himself as president of an ” executive coaching group” which means: this is all he does, dispense advice like this to people. He is a consultant, which means he probably had, or has, the same problem as many people reading this posting.

    It’s a shame, but probably true, that tattoo wearers, smokers, and introverts are at a disadvantage in this job market. Still, the last thing people who are down need is someone wagging their finger, telling them to change everything about themselves in order to land a job they will probably hate anyway. Advice like this only adds to anxiety levels that are probably sky- high already.

    It’s not any particular set of circumstances, but rather uncertainty, that causes anxiety. I would try to imagine the worst-case scenario if your unemployment continues, and try to deal with it. Many people reading this, for example, are probably single, and a spell of homelessness living in a car, eating in soup kitchens or from food banks probably wouldn’t kill you, despite what you may think. You can even stay clean and well-groomed with a $15/month gym membership. There are PLENTY of Internet resources about it.

    As for “getting a job”, I would advise people to follow Mr. Hecker’s example, NOT his advice. Employ yourself. Think about those guys who come up to your car, asking for a couple of bucks to clean your windshield. Not suggesting you do that, necessarily, but it displays the right attitude: just do SOMETHING. There is always work out there, not necessarily “jobs”.

    I could keep on making suggestions, but the main point I can make is this: Yeah, first impressions are important, blah, blah, blah, but do NOT rely on job-hunting pointers like this to help yourself move forward.

  43. Ramsey Lewis Flanagan

    “Almost all jobs these days are found through networking.” This is sad but true. Employers no longer want the best man for the job. They seem to care more about social status, wealth and connectivity than actual experience or skills. Case in point, and I hope Mr. Heckers reads this one because it happened right here in Denver. I experienced this “networking” bias firsthand. Late last year I interviewed with a medium-sized IT company. The job required a BS and 5 years experience, which I had. After interviewing with the department manager, he had his assistant interview me. The assistant was currently doing the identical job I would be doing and seemed eager to ask me a lot of personal questions instead of job related or skill related questions. I told her I knew HTML and PHP, which were required for the position. As we were discussing the technical side of the position, she said that she didn’t know HTML or PHP, and didn’t even know what those letters stood for. She had virtually zero experience with computers. I asked her how she liked working in IT and she talked about their lunch breaks and social events, mentioning that they were all a tight-knit office. She asked me about my family, my personal life, my school. That’s all she cared about. The actual job description stuff never even came up. She judged me solely on personal issues instead of competency. The hiring manager asked me, “Would I be comfortable working with someone with a lower level of skill than I had?” and we discussed essentially how incompetent this young girl was at her job.

    I didn’t get the job. But I looked up the hiring manager and the young woman on Linked In and wouldn’t you know. Noticed some strange. The company had four other employees that were all members of that same sorority. What a coincidence. So what I’m saying is that this young woman had none of the credentials that were required for the job and was still given the job. Companies now would rather hire people based on their social information. This is happening for a variety of reasons, but I think it’s mainly because of technology and connectivity. When companies search for your name on Google or Facebook, they are using this information to judge you. They are also assuming that they have the right person with the right name. Some of these baby boomers are so pants-on-head retarded that they can’t even seperate reality from the internet. I know a young man who got hired as a PR agent based on the fact that he had over 500 Twitter followers, yet he had not completed high school. Some people falsely conclude that a well-presented internet persona or high level of social connectivity equals a quality employee and will make hiring decisions based on your social information.

    All of this has tremendous implications on young workers. Let’s say you don’t have Facebook. Maybe you deleted it, maybe you found it too distracting. When HR manager searches for you and doesn’t find anything, they might ask you about your choice and judge you based on your answer. I can’t begin to tell you how absurd this is.

    Employers have young workers over a barrell these days and that’s why it’s so easy for them to write lists of 30 reasons why they don’t want to hire you. Because the job market is so completely glutted, they get like 100 applications for every position they post. Some of these morons are so lazy that they are now erecting their own barriers to entry. For instance, I now see job ad’s that ask you to write 500 word essays, such as, “500 words on why you want to work here”, and, “500 words about your last job”. Employers are not willing to be mentors anymore. That part of society – where older community and business leaders cared about citizens on a moral and civic level, and were willing to mentor them – those days are long gone. Employers these days want you to know every program in the world. They want you to be impeccibaly dressed and spoken. They want you to show up early and answer your cell phone at all hours of the day (even holidays).

    They also want you to work for free. Mr. Heckers the rise of unpaid internships in this country is criminal. It is simply unfathomable that companies get away with not paying young workers under the guise of internships. I admire Gov Hickenlooper – but if I was governor of Colorado, I would pass a law making unpaid internships illegal. College-based internships for accredited universities would be exempt from my law, but non-college based internships would be forced to AT LEAST pay minimum wage. Why? Why you ask? Because like I said – your company wants young people to have fancy iPhones and clothes, yet you aren’t willing to pay for them. You aren’t willing to take the time to foster civic duty or pride anymore. You see employees as expendable commodities. You’re simply cherry picking privileged employees, and those with the most privilege get the job. Disgusting. No wonder why so many young people jump from job-to-job these days, NO WONDER why so many of them are disloyal. No wonder why so many of them have bad attitudes and are depressed to begin with.

    Two important things to understand about the author of this article and his bias. When he says:

    “Entry-level jobs will be filled by entry-level people.” He means that him and his friends can pay them less and they tend to have better arses.

    “Look, there is a “great reset” going on. Salaries are lower these days. ” – He is saying that the storied elite and small business owners can get away with paying young people the lowest possible wage, while simultaneously telling them that the job market is oversaturated. They get you to work from home and use your personal cell phone as a business tool. For the other entry level jobs, they get a large number of them to work for absolutely no pay by telling them that it’s an internship. This statement is a lie and is statistically incorrect. Salaries of workers are lower these days, but salaries of mid-level management and CEO’s are off the charts. Compensation to senior management and upper tier employees is at a record high. In fact it’s higher than any other time in the history of capitalism.

    • You’re better off without this company then. If all they care about is the public persona of a shallow social network then your efforts would have been in vain had you secured the job. Cronyism isn’t limited to old white men in Washington and social networks just feed the beast. Smart move using their own vanity against them when you looked up the sorority and found the linkedin connection.

  44. important-comment

    Hey, here’s an idea! How about you give the slightly autistic guy who’s fumbling through the interview a chance at having a job? We have good work ethic and oppressive baby boomers like you are screwing up the economy by forcing us into welfare.

  45. Not quite sure how I got to this article, but here’s my 2 pence worth.

    I’m coming upto 2 years of looking for work, I was in IT, worked for myself for over 20+ years, and at the top of my field, hard working and pretty fair and never had a problem with anyone at any role I’ve had. Got a good degree in Mathmatics/Computer Science from a well regarded university.
    I’ve had 2 interviews over this period, one face to face and one over the telephone. I’ve applied for hundreds of jobs, all of which I’m more than capable of doing, ie. the CV’s pretty comprehensive, and relevant.
    Now looking at the hit rate of applications to interviews, everything points to CV, ie. they’re making judgements prior to seeing me to check personality.
    Now as the CV is fine, I’ve had it checked over and recruiters say it’s pretty good. So it’s something else they’re seeing on the CV.

    I’ve even offered to work for free with local firms, in any role in my field, with a backup professional indemnity insurance of 2 million.
    I’ve never received a reason for why the CV has been ignored by recruiter or HR, (and yes -I’ve asked).
    However, I’ll be expecting – you’re now de-skilled as a reason from here on in. :-)

    The UK government report by the Department of Work and pensions in 2009, makes interesting reading. If you’ve got a foreign sounding name you’ve got to apply for about 50% more jobs to get a response. Wasn’t that widely reported, it never made the TV news as far as I know, was reported by the guardian and the metro (free paper) though.

    The only other suspicion I have is age: I’m coming upto 48, maybe they think I’m going senile.

    In the current climate, I suspect both factors play are playing a bigger part, but as the government unlikely to do the test again,(I’ve checked), there’s no way of knowing. Also, most jobs now aren’t direct with the company, in IT anyway, you’ve got a recruitment agency/HR and then Manager/team leader to assess your CV.

    Luckily, I was a saver, I don’t have dependants, (except parents as they get older) and NO, I don’t sign on. As you can guess funds are running pretty low.

    Anyway, the way I look at it, I have no choice it’s a numbers game, I’ll keep applying, hoping I get an interview! (I could do with the practice, never mind a job.)
    Also, money is only an issue for as long as you live, who’s to say I’ll live long enough for it be a factor….

    As for this guy’s view of recruitment, unfortunately it shows that the people in power aren’t necassarly the brightest or fairest, and probably why they tend towards like minded candidates.

    • Your resume sounds similar to mine. I’d wager a large obstacle to your re-employment is the freelancing/solo work. I’ve run into the same thing myself and I know how maddening it can be to have to dumb down your accomplishments just to please somebody who’s never known anything but their cubicle and a steady paycheck. All I can say is to try to refocus your resume away from working for yourself and toward the skills you have. Any “regular” work should be emphasized as well. Employers see freelancers and entrepreneurs as a threat these days.

      I actually wrote an article about it because of my own frustration.

  46. Seems like the fact that you will not hire smokers seems like discrimination. It may not be on the basis of creed or race but it is none the less. Just because YOU think it’s a disgusting habit, which it is, doesn’t mean you have that ability to not hire someone based on that. If that is the case you should be liable to be sued or you are lying to the applicant when he/she is told they didn’t get the job due to “insert reason.”

    • It is possible that because smoking is an addition, not hiring someone because of it could be discrimination based on genetic information – which is a newly added protected category. A good attorney could probably argue the fact.

  47. Ps: Remember folks, us job seekers are the problem here. We are scum. We should be happy just to land an interview, let alone an email reply. We are responsible for Wall Street’s errors. We are all peasants and employers rule the world.

    Yep, welcome to the United States of go f*** yourself. Not a very proud time for our nation, gotta say.

    • Yes. I hate this country that I was unfortunately born into. It is the most sickening place in the industrialized world as far as I am concerned. And to all the “good old boys” who will get their red necks all roughed up by me bashing on their horrible nation, I never plan on looking at this webpage again, so waste your steam!

  48. The author of this post disqualifies people based on personal prejudices obviously. He clearly doesn’t put into consideration that depression and stress occur when there is a piss poor job market. Kind of a no-brainer. Less jobs available = less happiness available. As for people with experience applying to entry level: So what? Again, tough job market. Requires we apply for LESS APPEALING LESS PAYING jobs. This guy kind of sounds like a troll.

    • I agree. He’d rather overlook experience than give someone a shot. But that’s the New America. Step on those who are a bit more older and wiser than 90% of the arrogance he claims he wouldn’t hire which would be the young and more hip who are tattooless and all.

  49. Mr. Heckers, you’re clearly a blunt and direct person. Allow me to be blunt and direct to you. You didn’t help people you just found a venue to vent your limited perspective. If you were an authority or a professional as you mention, it would have been helpful if you could have shown that.

    You aren’t being clever or witty; you come across as foolish and bullish. You made your opinion, not our experience, known. If you wanted reactions you got it. I looked up your info on Google, I imagine you have good information, but your delivery is repellent. I’m also guessing you hire a lot “yes” people and don’t want to hear or be told the truth.

  50. Your #6 answer “over qualified” makes me very angry!!!
    My husband and I lost everything when the economy took a dive. He was making over $50,000. a year, selling natural stone for 13 years. When the owner of the company decided not to listen to any one about the down turn, and went on countless ATV riding vacations in the desert instead. Because he knew everything. The company took a huge hit. People don’t buy patio stone when they are losing their house. My husband and I are now on public assistance, and would very much like not to be. He want’s and needs a job desperately!! Something!!! even if it is flipping burgers. It is not fair in this economy not to give someone a chance, and even get angry at them for trying your company? Shame on you!!!!! Sometimes all you need is a helping hand, a step up. We know you can’t pay what he is truly worth. But it beats being on welfare.

  51. disgruntledswindonion

    It is now illegal to not employ some on based on tattoos and piercings as it recently has been branded as a hate crime in the UK, this isn’t to say that I won’t take out my jewellery for a job but to think I won’t get an opportunity just because I can’t cover a little bit of my personality that would show even if I am wearing a suit.
    How am I supposed to explain to an employer that I am ready for work when I have not even been invited for an interview based on my CV to tell them I’ve been depressed and working on my mental health for years and I have just got it into check and the job market has no time for me which has made looking for a job in a place with one of the highest unemployment rates in the country. In the tenth biggest town in england the industry is failing and making cutbacks, the financial sector is making cutbacks and there are less retail positions because the town is a failing economy.

    • Its not illegal. Municipalities do not hire tattoo people in some places. How dare you alter your appearance and expect me to lose money, by hiring a low class looking pos.

  52. In todays economy you need to actively market yourself, and give the impression that you are well-skilled and experienced. If you can’t do that, then you need figure out how you can.

    1)SPAM MAIL – you know how you get endless number of emails for fake job posting that essentially want you to sell cutco knives? Well why don’t you do the same? In less than 2 weeks, you can collects and send 1M networking emails with the click of a few buttons. You’ll get close to 1% response, pick and choose from 1000+ qualified leads.

    2)LIE LIE LIE – Well, not lie. But half truths. Half truths that you can’t be called out on. Simple stuff like achievements. For instance, say you are in sales. For your last position, say you “Increased sales by 35%”. Even if you were a horrible sales man… because its unverifiable nonsense, which non-the-less is very compelling nonsense.

    3)Start a LLC – 50 bucks and bam, you can give yourself whatever title you want, and say you have worked there for however long. Doesn’t matter. It’s your company.

    4)Go to a simple webpage – copy it’s source code, make a few changes and host your own website for your business. A weeks worth of time, and you look that much more professional and capable.

    5)Linkedin – just connect. it doesn’t matter if you know the person. say your a colleague. how the hell will they know? so what if they dont accept. Send out 50 at a time, you might get 10. Rinse and repeat. Do this until you get 500+ connections. That’s 500 emails which are targeted to a specific industry you are interested in. It’s priceless.

  53. I keep trying to make excuses but this article opened my eyes. It’s MY fault I’m unemployed. So what if I’m an honors college grad??? My degree is worthless. I have no marketable skills. I am unattractive/borderline repulsive. I have no one to network with.

    I am scum.

    • Dude, buck up. You are not scum. We are just in a horrible recession, and quiet honestly the people who got hit the hardest are 20-30 yr olds. Our unemployment rate is near 20%, and our underemployment rate is double that. 4 years ago when I first came out of college, people were throwing jobs at me left and right. I decided to go back to school for a M.Sc. and when I got out less than .01% applications would even respond. It took me two years to find a decent job. It’s not you. Seriously, it’s the economy. Do anything you can do to get a job. Even if it’s minimum wage. Lie on your resume, say you don’t have a degree, call or email HR every week or two. Keep doing this. You need to actively market yourself. Use google to get email addresses of as many recuiters and hiring managers as you can. When you have 500-100, send a mail merge every two weeks. Get on linkedin, and just start connecting to people . Establish a LLC (100-200 dollars and paperwork), give yourself a good title, and use that position to cover recent unemployment. You have to be dirty, you have to be cheap. No one wants to shape clay these days. They want a well designed product that can hit the ground running. First thing you need to do, is give off that impression.

      • Dude, thanks for this (and thanks, Martin for your response too!). You are right that you have to be dirty. I don’t even have a B.A. only an A.S., but i truly feel like some of these retail jobs i’m applying for think that i’m over-qualified, when, even though my half-an-education is in something unrelated to sales, i have plenty of sales experience, am a hard worker, good at sales, and actually even kind of like it! I want to go back for my B.A. (which i would have to start from scratch because my A.S. is a national, not a regional accreditation from a tech school) but i’m kind of afraid of going through all of that school at age over 30 and then even more so not being able to get a job in whatever field i choose or a sales job if i need one. I think i will start taking my A.S. degree off my applications. I truly don’t think it’s my age, as i see people even much older than me getting jobs at tons of retail stores, but i know for sure that a lot of them i’ve worked with have no education at all past high school.

        So moral of this story is, when looking for a job that you feel is a job that typically employees teens or people with little education, if you want the in, play the game. It works the same way when you want to get in at a company that might be a little over your head. You fake it ’till you make it, and play the game. I’m going to try this and see what happens.

        Still on the fence about college though. I think i should at least get my B.S. or B.A. but… I want to make more money in my life, but i don’t want to just be waste my time. Maybe i’ll start a company while i’m going to school, and see if i can just buck the whole traditional system and make money another way.

        With all the experience i have with working with the “over-qualified” 25-35 yr olds, and “supposedly-qualified” 18-24 yr olds, i can promise you I would only hire “overly-qualified” people for my company, and not deal with the flaky, no-call,no-show, quit-on-the-spot, rude, immature, inappropriate, lazy, indifferent 18-24 crowd (no offence those of you who are great employees, i’ve just worked with SO many awful ones, that I think the 25-25 college educated crowd is actually really amazing in the retail/food business. Everyone should give them a chance. Hang in their guys. The smart companies that don’t want to hire new employees every week when their 21-yr olds walk out because their schedule cuts into their club schedule, will be smart to hire you.

        • Elena, if you enjoy sales, have you ever considered applying for a traineeship in that area? You could also try applying for a sales position in a car company, realstate or another large scale commerical company. Many of these places offer traineeships. It’s worth trying for if you like that kind of thing. What these companies want to know is that you’re passionate about sales and are going to bring in the dough, so if you present that in your resume, you just never know what may come of it. Good luck!

    • Wow, John Heckers, what a horrible article. Jeffy, DO NOT listen to this idiot. This is just ONE person’s opinion, NOT everyone’s.

      True, I may not be getting hired right now for some jobs because i’m over qualified, but the last position I took in retail, that I was “overqualified” for, lasted for 2 years. And everyone reading this, and all employers reading this, should listen up. It was a typical retail job, that typically hired 18-23 year olds, but allllll (and i DO mean ALL) of those flaky “kids” were the ones that were in and out of there in 2 weeks – 6 months max! All of us with Associates – Bachelors degrees (some of us with jobs in our field on the side, some of us with only this job) were the MOST coach-able, the LEAST unprofessional (retail companies NEVER EVER seem to understand that a good majority of the 13-23 crowd, is lazy, not doing the assigned job, texting on the job, half-as*ed helping customers, coming in late, calling out (like, at LEAST 1-3 times a WEEK!), being rude to customers (i even saw this from a 23 yr old manager, and had to tell her to back off. Unbelieveable.), talking back to managers, doing drugs (smoking pot, etc.) on the store property. Just ridiculous.

      Us, the “overqualified”, that this company was smart enough to hire, were smart and professional (even in retail you NEED smart and professional people. That is just GOOD BUSINESS.), fast learners, always reliable (rarely calling out, EVEN when work was a bit to much for those who had another job in their preferred field, and picking up our much younger co-workers slack.

      We ALL (I mean at least 8 of us that I can think of offhand – it was a smaller sized store with about 16 employees at a time, but it’s hard to remember, because so many of the “qualified” employees with no college edu. left after 1-6 months, so in 2 years, i saw a lot of new faces)
      were fast learners, motivated (even though we were just selling clothing and novelties!!!), engaged with customers, possessed good attitudes, understood that this job, even if it was “only” retail, if done well, could be used on a resume should we in the future want/have to get another retail job (the younger set, for the MOST PART-not all of them, but a very many- either didn’t realize this, or didn’t care), we actually CARED about the company’s daily sales goal, and strove to help each other in different sections of the store in order to achieve it. Many of us got great customer reviews (we had review cards for customers to fill out at the front of the store), and we were incredibly self motivated, and quite a few of this, went on in 2 years to become lead sales clerks or Assistant Managers.

      For those of you who think that someone “overqualified” is “unemployable” or a bad choice for your company because they will be “out the door” as soon as they get a job in their field”, well, you’ve probably had a few bad experiences, and for that i’m sorry, but that’s life. If you know anything about retail, you should know that the turnover rate is excruciatingly high. Mostly from the early college crowd, quitting because the job cramps their nightlife, or they snagged a “cooler” job at Abercrombie, or realized they could make more money at a bar (this happened often at my job).

      The older, often more educated set, has a sense of company loyalty, respect for others, self motivation, and focus, that the “qualified” set, just does not have. The pay in retail sucks, but the pay in upper management isn’t half bad. You never know, you may get either long term hardworking, motivated employees from the “over qualified”, or employees that after working in the company for awhile, realize that they actually like sales, and are good at it, and stay and move into management positions that can end up paying more than some career jobs.

      Don’t discount us like that. It’s rude, immature, unprofessional, and frankly, just stupid. If the company I worked for, hired more “over qualified” employees, their crazy high turnover rate would have slowed to an incredibly low turnover rate, and they wouldn’t have had to waste such an incredible amount of time on training and paperwork for people who were sometimes there for only a week or two. The 8 or so of us that stayed for 2+ years, really took pride in our work, motivated each other and ourselves, had a sense of ownership in the company, even though we didn’t at all, and even formed friendships where we still hang out and see each other, which is just really nice.

      A lot of “over qualified” professionals, have a sense of loyalty to a job, where even if they DO find something else that they feel would work better for them, they won’t just walk out, or stop showing up (no-call/no-show was a big thing at my job with the “qualified” bunch). They will most likely give you a very professional 2-4 weeks notice, show up for it and do their job exactly as they had been, with no slack off, and even have no problem training a new employee if you ask them too.

      Give us a chance. It could be one of the best hiring decisions you make.

    • Jeff, it’s all about how you come across, so when you create a resume you want to get to interview stage, so think about what people will be looking for. Think about what would annoy you if you were an employer and create a resume that is easy to read and can be digested in a matter of minutes (2 minutes AT THE MOST just to make it to the ‘maybe’ pile). People don’t want to read novlets and want to be able to see quickly and clearly that you address most of the selection criteria. Always bare in mind that you may be competeing with hundreds of people just to get to interview. Also, you may care a great deal for the amount of effort and time you have put into your qualifications, but believe me, nobody else does. These days they are merely a minimum requirement for a job (and hundrends of people applying will have the same/similar/better qualifications).

      You will most likely still have to go in at entry level in most companies just to get your foot in the door, but if you prove yourself and network effectively you will progress faster than someone without the qualitifications. Having said that, you will have to prove yourself worthy of moving up the ladder (these days promotions are rare, and most jobs are advertised and you have to apply for them, even though you already work for the company). Gone are the days of ‘I like you so up you go”. Companies have learned the hard way that this can be very bad for business when there may just be someone else better out there who can make more of the job. It doesn’t hurt to send the message to the right people that you are eager and ready to learn and move up the ladder though. I have always found that showing some initiative and enthusiasm for your employer, or for a particular part of the business, goes a long way.

      If you are stuggling to get into your industry/area of choice with regards to work then consider taking up a lesser job in a similar industry/area of work and then applying for your preferred jobs. You would be surprised at how a simple 12 months in another area (related to your chosen field) will reflect in your resume. Your experience coupled with your enthusiastic request to be “considered for employment in an area you are eager to learn more about”, could just help you get over the line.

      These days you really have to show initiative and be a little creative in how you get into your desired position, but you have to always think about how you’re coming across to your employer.

      I know it can be daunting, but if you can produce a solid and concise resume with good communication that addresses the selection criteria, i guarantee that you will be considered for something. It may not be your desired job, but it’s a start and you can build from there.

      I would recommend that you think long and hard bout what industry you would like to be a part of, because you are more likely to be enthusiastic and driven if you like the industry your trying to get into. It will also show in your work ethic and your demeaner/character.

      Good luck….and DON’T EVER GIVE UP!

  54. the 12 reasons that pld gave seem to be very accurate. I am a recent paralegal college graduate. I have been having problems finding work and I have came to the conclusion that I am not the RACE of corporate America. I am not raceist and did not want to believe that this still went on but after I kept looking at the the places that I was interviewing I realized that the company make-up did not consist of my race at all. Graduated college with a 3.9, Presented a recommendation letter, dressed professionally and still have had no luck. Some of the suggestions that was presented in the article seem contradictory of each other. For example, he says don’t talk to much and then he says they don’t tend to hire people that can’t communicate (Well which one do you want me to do talk or shut up!) He says that demonstrating arrogance will not get you hired but he says don’t demonstrate a depressive attitude.(so you don’t want me showing confidence because it may be mistaken as arrogance but meekness may be seen as me being depressed!) His statements would make sense if everyone was perfect but we are not. There are no perfect candi

  55. You don’t know everybody’s situation, so please get off your high horse and offer decent advice for people who are trying and doing everything right, but still get a foot in the door.


    • Ok Mr. Heckers know it all job world….have you gone jobless in the last 5 to 7 years? No one wants to see you in person (atleast not in my town in Florida). I dress up look incredibly professional in my professional navys browns and blacks (did you know those are the key interview colors that dont distract the interviewer) and I network and market. i think my resume goes strait in the garbage when I turn my back. In 3 years I have obtained 1 Job after being laid off in late 2009. In May 2012 I was let go at day 88 because after all “they really had no room for an extra body”. What they really had no room for was my 90 day upcoming benefitsackage. So back here I am back at the drawing board for a year now. In response. to anpother statement you made regarding

      • By the way your comment section could use some updating. as i was saying… In response to being over qualified and starting my own company I find that to be a fantastic idea and I have the perfert consulting firm in mind that will take me beyond what I grossed before this economical debacle, HOWEVER; our home is gone, we drive sh**, cars now, our savings is depleted and credit is shot. At 38 and 44 we live week to week like we are back in college. So I ask you Mr. Man of the Interview hidden job start your own business if your over qualified know it all, would you like to loan me the money to start that business since the bank owns everything I worked so hard for and will never give me another one at a decent rate or just keep flapping at the gums. your blog sickened me.

    • I wish he would go to work and give some opinions on these responses since I fit all his critetra (ha) I would enjoy reading them

  56. Truth is everybody can fall into the 18 reasons you’ve stated above. So what, we’re humans!

    The truth is decision makers are advertising but aren’t really looking to fill positions, why would they when the rest of their work force are happy to take on the extra responsibility, thus saving them money in the long run. I believe employers are setting jobseekers up to fail by asking and expecting far, far too much of them. Grads are picking up roles way and behind their abilities – not their fault. This knocks on to the next tier group and so, employers are starting to miss out on a balanced workforce and it’s gonna bite them in the butt in another year or so. So let them enjoy their false economy…. for now anyway.

    Sit tight job seekers do what you have to do to survive…. One day very soon your ancient skills will be very much in demand!

  57. Your transsexual and employer’s are bigoted and judgmental and they also think you are mental because of it.

  58. Your Black or Latino. I stopped answering the diversity questions and started checking White on ALL the boxes. Got two calls in 4 days. Would that be illegal?

  59. Interesting. I dislike being a bum. But I like this guy. He calls a spade a spade. So, what I need to do is: Network. Grow a beard. And start my own business from scratch. Would be faster with a job, but it can still be done. What I find most amusing is the HR clones are going to work, slaving at their nine to fives, paying my dole. I will play the game though. Apply. Answer their silly generic questions. Declined. After many interesting (read eye opening) experiences with HR ‘Soooo…WHERE do you SEE yourself in five years?’ I have come to the conclusion that it doesn’t really matter whats on a piece of paper. It’s what you can actually do for (and sell to) other people that matters.

  60. This person said “if you were fired you most likely deserved it” and that makes me mad because I didnt deserve it, its not my fault I dont learn as fast as their opinion thought I should, everyone learns at a different rate and it is wrong to fire someone because of the rate at which they learn.

    • Truth is, employers have unrealistically high expectations because they don’t want to deal with prolonged training, you’ve got to understand that they have a business to run and no time to babysit you through every step everyday. If you put yourself in their shoes, you’d understand they have a lot of stress to deal with already and either you play it by their rules or you’re just a mis-match puzzle to their picture. It doesn’t matter if you really deserve it or not, they don’t care about you as much as they care about themselves, so forget about it and move on.

    • There are many unseen layers in a workplace which affect work environment. Some we create ourselves, some are created by outside factors and we have no control over them. Congradulate yourself that you are still learning even if its slow going

  61. The truth is people, employers like him are judges and no matter how bias and stupid the process they set up for us and how much an a$$&^%@ they are, there are employers like him EVERYWHERE and your arguments are not going to go anywhere beyond this page. At least give this guy some kudos for giving some heads up on how to play their little games correctly, we all know interviews are all BS anyways, you feed them lies they wanna hear, that’s all. consider taking up some acting lessons.

  62. Realistically, I’m not going to hire someone with 10+ years of experience with a great deal of responsibility in their last job for an entry-level job. Entry-level jobs will be filled by entry-level people. All you do when you apply for these things is annoy the employer. I know you might be desperate. But it is better to consult or start your own business, than to apply for entry-level jobs.

    There ARE some people that are not going back into the field they came from and what a jerk for this comment. You go ahead and find yourself an entry level person that takes three times longer than the experienced one to get the job done. Apparently you have money to burn.

    • You do run a risk with over experience due to turnover, however; take advantage to use it as a small Q&A in your inter process. A good interviewer will pick up on why this person wants this entry position. They can also become an asset if trained in other areas if someone doesnt make it to work one day.

  63. Introducing the Beatles

    No wonder why you all can’t get jobs. You are too busy complaining on here all day.

  64. I wonder if this guy lives under a rock.Is this 1950?If u dont know i smoke or cannot see my tattoes,well its none of your business what i do outside of work.The only reason u can have this attitude is merely because of the economy.If it was an employees market,U would be begging people to work.Abuse and power at its worst here folks.

    • He did say “I won’t hire someone with a facial piercing or visible tattoo” “VISIBLE” is the keyword. The truth is, no one will take people with VISIBLE tattoos and piercings seriously and it’s offensive in the PROFESSIONAL WORLD, if you want to show them off, go for jobs that doesn’t care about how you dress yourself. Remember, it’s their games, and sadly you’ve got to play it by their rules.

  65. Hey John Heckers – now I know why I’m unemployed, because arrogant a**holes like you run “branding” or “executive development” bulls*it consulting companies and somehow hold the keys to the kingdom now. HR is a joke and its ironic and troubling that the zeros are the ones hiring everyone… I am a young professional with advanced degrees (in actual real subject disciplines, like engineering and science) from excellent schools, 5+ years of experience and great references. I am so desperate I will work at your unpaid internship or lower level job to gain experience to try to work up the ladder, but idiots like you are holding the entire workforce back. Walk 5 minutes in an unemployed person’s shoes, I bet your tune would change real fast.

  66. I am unemployed now and after reading this article I wonder why I am unemployed. Its because of people like John Heckers who wrote this article. People like John Heckers everywhere, they dont look for telent they only look if you are smoking, well dressed. So Idiot John heckers check your facts right before posting article. There are no relationship between talent and smoking, OR talent and looks. Why dont you go hire people talented. Thanks to people like you we are unemployed and its better that we are unemployed because we reject to work for schmucks like you.

  67. I don’t see how helpful this post can be considering the obnoxious tone and judgemental attitude displayed. It really doesn’t show much respect let alone understanding for people going through long term unemployment in a tough economic time.

    Some assertions like if you were on a higher salary you were “living beyond your means” come off very unfair and even mean-spirited. People were on a higher salary can simply because the industry they were in had a shortage of staff supply with their skill set while booming, which can’t be a bad reflection on that person.

    Interviews are unfortunately very subjective selection processes. A candidate can be rejected for both valid and ridiculous reasons. To generalise and assume someone overqualified won’t stay with your company doesn’t show much confidence in what your company can offer.

    People stay for many reasons besides pay or the position being the exact match of skill sets and expectations. It can also be a team with great culture, a career path, a good boss and so much more. I personally think someone who has gone through unemployment will work harder to try not lose a job again thus they might actually stay longer.

    I have been through quite a few bad job interviews myself with HR. Many of them didn’t dress up professionally, were late for longer than 15 mins, talked through most of the interview time, and certainly asked general questions that can’t help them get to know the candidate to depth. One even gave me the wrong office address.

    Once a young HR asked me “what system do you use to meet your targets at work?” I asked what do you mean by system? She said:”For example, I have a To-Do list myself when trying to meet my targets.” I then realised what she meant and smiled and said yes I have a To-do list too, and many other ways to prioritise etc. …

    In many situations, general HR questions will get you a certain type of employees who might later on turn out to be boring and unfit as they move onto senior management or client facing roles. People with the exact experience match can well turn out to be more disappointing and incompetent than a fast learner without previous relevant experience. Someone do perfectly well at interviews to a HR standard then get hired can also quit in a short period if they felt it is not a good fit.

    I haven’t had much luck getting a job through HR. But I do interviews very well with line managers because they know what they are talking about and ask relevant sharp questions.

    John: Life happens. We all go through ups and downs. No one can stay at top forever. What matters is whether they’re willing to constantly try to get back up.

    Your job is to identify those with the right attitude and talent, help them get back on their feet, instead of making completely stupid judgemental assertions. Show them an opportunity when you can help! Tell them the reason they failed an interview without shooting them down.

    If HR professionals like yourself can’t even be bothered to respect that, then guess what, eventually no one will need HR anymore.

    Be nice.

    • Thank you for answering John, I too have never had any luck with hr. always do better when the foremen or managers are asking the questions.
      Maybe they should do away with hr. Can’t companies and employers automate that position yet? they have automated everything else. Soon we’ll have bots hiring

    • Jen,
      You are right about the tone and attitude of this article’s author. He has a job so is able to pontificate about what the rest of us are doing wrong.

      I know a chap here in Miami Beach who was employed by American Airlines for many years, but AA downsized. He is Italian/Irish, very handsome, speaks Spanish and Portuguese, does not smoke, dresses impeccably is personable and extremely intelligent. His only “flaws” are that he is 55 (but does not look it) and gay (but not feme; he had to tell me he is gay.) The 55 is what is keeping him from getting hired, I am sure. He does not want to go into the airline business again and is receiving a pension. However, he does not feel old enough to be turned out to pasture yet. He wants to find a job in a different field and can afford to take an entry level position. Can you tell me what is wrong with him by your standards? There is a way to “let someone down easily” without making them feel like a jerk. Tone in writing is very important.

  68. Pretty rude, arrogant and judgemental there.

    Everybody’s situation is different. The irony is, you probably can’t do much better than anyone else if you were in the situation one day. These days industries are going through restructuring, education is expensive, and even HRs ask endless stupid questions. Now you wonder why people are unemployed and can’t get back on top straight away?

    I have been unemployed for five months. Got two job offers that I rejected because I want to wait for a good one I can do in long term. You can criticise the hell of my choices. Truth is, if I interviewed with someone who asks stupid questions like you, I wouldn’t join that company! If I got an offer significantly lower than what I used to earn, I wouldn’t take it even you gave me an offer. I’d still apply for the job and go through the interview process because I didn’t know how much they’d offer me beforehand!

  69. One thing that I noticed not on the list was resume. I have serveral friends that are recruiters and I always hear them talk about resumes. One of the big reasons people get cut is a bad resume. And I am not just talking about spelling errors.

    For example, a long time ago I was working at a company and we were looking to hiring analysts to work with SQL Server. I went thru hundreds of resumes and in the Objective it would state their goal is to be an Oracle DBA. That is nice; however, we work with SQL Server so if you goal is to be an Oracle DBA good luck, because we do not have any need for that here. Now granted the person may be skilled; however, if their goal does not match ours, then why should I spend time interviewing the person if they want to work with Oracle instead of SQL Server. Plus the fact that we are looking for an analyst not a DBA.

    Remember if I only have one position to fill, I am going to look for the best match. Why would I waste my time interviewing candidates that want to be an Oracle DBA instead of an Analyst using SQL Server.

    My advice is to read the job and tailor your resume to better fit the job. Yes, this is a bit of extra work; however, I have found I get better results in getting an interview. I too have been laid off many times and have been able to find something within a few months.

  70. Now here are true reasons of unemployment.
    1 You don’t have relations/friends in the company, i.e. you’re alien
    2 you don’t belong to the same social class, ethnic or religious group as average folks in the company
    3 you’ve a degree from a non-prestigious university/college
    4 you’ve a wrong major
    5 you’ve no appropriate experience
    6 you’ve an unpretty face/ obesity/ bad teeth/ scars/etc.
    7 you’re voice is unpleasant or sounds immature
    8 you have an opinion which means you won’t be loyal enough
    9 you’ve no proper hobby which means you won’t present the company in their off-work activities well
    10 you’re wrong age, say, you’re older than the accepted age for the vacancy.
    11 you’re shy and not talkative
    12 they’re planning to hire their own candidate but need a fake open hiring due to company’s PR policy

    • A little less cynical, I would say that 1 & 12 are closest to the most common reasons. More often than not, a company will take the recommendation for someone internally (either an internal applicant, or someone known to a staff member). It’s also definitely true that there is ageism involved, but I’m afraid it does have a practical application. It’s a gross generalisation, but “you can’t teach an old dog new tricks” is often the barrier. A resume full of spelling and grammatical errors will get you thrown out of the pile, and if you manage to get to an interview and your english is incomprehensible, you’ll get crossed off as well.

    • I am unemployed for almost two years since I passed out of college. I am still a fresher and after been through a few interviews I can say all twelve points you mentioned seems legit.

  71. “If you’re asked a question, answer it. Don’t beat around the bush, and don’t give stupid canned answers. A clear example of this is the number of people who say, when asked about a weakness, “I guess I’m just too much of a self-motivated, self-starter who is too hard on himself.” Stupid answer.”

    Then don’t ask such a generic, canned, “stupid” question.

    • Yeah the questions are so stupid. Do they really think anyone is gonna tell the truth? If you do they won’t hire you!! I wish they would quit playing games and give me a job!

  72. You big fat slob talking about how someone should look in their clothes, a wolf in sheep’s clothing, go gobble up a couple big mac’s fat man!

  73. None of these reasons apply to me! I can’t even GET an interview! I have never failed an interview, I dress as well as I can, considering I don’t get unemployment benefits.

    I was a stay at home mom for years, went to college, graduated with a 4.0, have been doing volunteer work IN my field for 5 years now, among other volunteer work (a couple of temp jobs and one very underemployed position, which I had to quit due to family terminal illness in another country). Have completed certificate courses that will keep my skills up.

    You think I can find work and pay off my student loans. NO. So whats the reason? Its certainly none of those. And you can bet I’m a little frustrated. I have 2 kids to look after, one who will be going to college herself in another 18 months.

  74. People like you make it so much harder than it has to be. On one hand we can’t get hired because we are unemployed, but we can’t move up back to our old jobs being you guessed it, we are unemployed.

    Start a company? How are unemployed people supposed to start a company? You either a. need the bank of mom and dad or b. I don’t know, A JOB to fund that personal business until it lifts off the ground.

    Yes, yes, I know all about how it is easier to get a job with a job, and when I knew I was being let go or close to it, I started looking immediately. Had actually been looking off and on long before that, but you know the economy that HR people helped create just sucks.

    “But it is better to consult or start your own business, than to apply for entry-level jobs. When I see someone with extensive experience applying for an intern job, I’m not even going to interview them. I know that they’ll be gone in a heartbeat if something in their field comes along, and that they won’t stay and grow with my company. I also know they’re going to second guess me, not be coachable and generally be a pain in the neck. Don’t bother to apply for these jobs.”

    • You want to be doing more than presenting the proverbial book cover in a job application. The resume is one the thing, the cover letter is another. Research the company so that you know precisely what they do and what they’re known for, so that you come across as wanting to be a part of it, rather than shooting off a template. From the interview, they should get a general idea of your personality and sociability.

  75. Here is my take on it, as I have been out for 3 years: There are a couple of factors to spread around the blame and it starts with the economy. Some jobs are being outsourced overseas for cheaper labor, the jobs that are still here are being oversaturated, companies are being “tight” with their money because the financial market is unclear so they are apprehensive to hire a lot of folk. The bank lenders and those who took the loans are what “started the ball rolling” as far as this economic recession goes. Another factor is YOU…yes…YOU [and me, of course]. If you were fired or laid-off then there was a reason [doesn’t mean it has to be a good reason]. What the author, Heckers, said is somewhat true: a reality check is needed! If your appearance is off-setting to others then it WILL be difficult for someone to hire you. It is 2013, companies want professional looking individuals [which doesn’t mean that they are professional at all…it’s just someone’s interpretation that they look professional]. So if you have a dye hair color or piercings “out the wazoo”, then trying to get a job as an educator might not be suitable for your umm…tastes. I am all for self-expression but I am also for wisdom and with that comes restraint and knowing when to use it. Another factor is your environmental setting. What I mean by that is where you live. If you live in a place where the unemployment rate is extremely high or you know that there aren’t any jobs around in the area then suffice to say, it will be difficult to gain employment. If you want a certain job industry to work in but there isn’t one available then you have to make a decision: should I go or stay? Another factor [that affects me, wholeheartedly] is references and reputation. This is a factor that I “slept” on because I honestly thought I didn’t have a need. I graduated from college in 2000 and I have always had a job [only 3 jobs and one was a contract job while I have been unemployed] with long tenures. I never needed a reference to get a job but now that I have been out for quite a while, I totally understand the value. You need someone to vouch for your degree of professionalism and integrity. A former or current co-worker is great, a colleague is okay [this might seem kinda biased because they are your friends so of course they are gonna say good things about you…even though they could be lying, right?], a educator or professor is also okay only because it depends on how far removed from schooling you are [ex: Kinda hard to use a former English teacher of yours as a reference when you were getting your Master’s when it was like 10 plus years ago…see?]. There are other factors that I wont go into great detail but I will note them: Racism, Age Discrimination, Better candidates, Nervousness in interviews [trust me–this is a killer], Drug Abuse [can’t smoke weed if it’s a job you really need-takes at least 6 months to get out of your systems due to the fact that THC is fat soluble and that is just for urinalysis and it stays in your hair for several years for those who want FED jobs as they will test a piece of your hair], Employers look at the gap in employment and just think you are lazy [which might not be the case], etc.

  76. 19. You are too old. Go to the outskirts of the village, go directly to the outskirts of the village, do not collect $200, sit down and wait for the lions to come.

  77. The poster is a fat slob and then tells people how they should look for an interview. Well, Mr.Poster lose some weight and maybe, just maybe I’ll have some respect for you.

    Ever think how much your upcoming heart attack will cost your employer??
    Didn’t think so.

  78. @John hecklers comment involving disablities

    we can’t make this world fair? wow you are truly a human being who needs pity…because that’s about the only thing your good for from now til your end it seems…being someone to whom pity should be directed

    a better world doesn’t just happen, it takes hard work, the fact that you “Say” (and i stress the fact that you “say”) you have a disablity is laughable…you say your sorry that economic times are affecting people so bad…go f— yourself, we don’t want your sympathy or your apologizes, we want a working wage that is in line with the standards of living. I myself live a very spartan lifestyle, I do not own a tv or gaming system, I don’t go out to eat, I don’t smoke or drink, and so, my cost of living is much lower then others. I am also very capable when it comes to problem solving and interpersonal communication, I can fix just about anything that doesn’t require heavy machinery, and yet, people like you won’t hire me for some of these bull—- reasons…some are quite valid, such as talking yourself out of an interview, but others, such as tattoo’s, is discriminatory…it would be like if you came into my business and asked for a job and i said “sorry your too fat to work roofing, your fat a– could fall through and cost me money, i don’t really care if your running out of money to live on and will either have to go beg on the streets for money to eat”

    and living beyond your means lmafo…I wonder how much weight you would lose and how hard it would hit you if i had the power to take away all your capital, all your contacts, and f— over your potential for getting hired by blacklisting you, you wouldn’t have enough money to move out of that city nor a support system to turn to, I would then give you a 8 dollar an hour job and ride your a– every second of the day to make sure i wasn’t just paying you to work, but i was actually profiting off the difference between work you do and the wage i pay you…I seriously wonder if you could hack it…well not really, its a rhetorical question…

  79. I think the biggest reason older people can’t get hired is the cost of their health insurance benefits. I read somewhere that employees in their early 50’s cost twice as much to insure as those in their 20’s, and those in their late 50’s cost twice as much to insure as those in their early 50’s. My guess is the cost just keeps going up exponentially from there. The health insurance carriers are the problem, basically red-lining those about 50 and over from ever getting a job. You are not going to get hired with this situation unless you are blessed or had foresight enough to be very highly educated and skilled in an in-demand field, that is worth the extra cost to a company. In fact I have read statements on forums by employers that they where told flat out by health insurance company reps that if they got rid of all their older workers they could cut their health insurance bill in half if not more. If this type of discriminatory insurance practice was happening in say, real estate, red lining inner city neighborhoods and such, the government would be all over it. But because its just “old people” and age discrimination (which is against Federal laws, that are not enforced) nobody seems to care. It’s like the way mortgages are amortized, with all the interest paid first. Why is this BS allowed?

  80. I can fix anything and no one will hire me.

    Because I am 49 years old.

    I have been working since I was 12 and I have never not been able to get a job.

    Now, I get “Laid Off” and I can’t get a job.

    There is something seriously wrong with “America” that I can even get a “Minimum ‘Wage’ Job” because I am “Over – Qualified”.

    There’s no chance of working at a “Fast – Food” place.

    I am 60 days from being “Homeless” and there is not a job that I can do”.

    I just want $20 an hour to live and pay my rent.

    I guess that’s too much to ask.

    And I don’t even want “Obama Care”.

    • I know that being unemployed is tough. Would you be interested in applying for a state job They are less likely to discriminate due to age. Also, job coaches can be really helpful. Good luck!

    • Dear John – I feel your pain. I too am 49 and have been relentlessly seeking a job for over a year now! I have one daughter still in school (husband is deceased) and I can’t get a minimum wage job. I detest the thought of government assistance, but whats left!? I too battle with the “over qualified” as I have a Bachelors degree but having been a stay at home mom for years my resume can’t hide the gaps. I truly believe this is “agism” at its best. My only desire right now is to be self sufficient but I’m losing hope. Glad I found this forum because because it makes me feel less alone.

      • while im not an american, i would have to disagree with the “agism” thought you had, i myself am 27 and out of the last 6 interviews i’ve went to, 5 of them said i did not have “enough recent work experience” i started my first job when i was 14, i’ve worked in different areas and for awhile I was doing basic renovations under the table for anyone who was looking for some work done on their house, when i brought that up in each interview, i was told that “under the table work can not be considered as real work” wtf is that…short of electrical work, which i can’t do because i’m not certified, i can basically build a house from the ground up with the information i’ve aqquired over the years, and yet still prospective employers say that a gap like “that” in my resume isn’t desireable…so i can’t go back in time and pick different work to do, i can’t go to the people i worked for and get documentation from them, and i can’t get a job to build my “recent work experience” because no one will hire me. I don’t think it has so much to do with age as it does a cost benifit thing…people who have experience in the work place know what is expected of them, as well as their employer, however, entry level people who have little work experience do not yet, and those are the people they want to hire, the people who they can turn to and say “you’ll do it if you want to keep your job” and get away with it…I find this entire board somewhat depressing as you have this arrogent a–hole at the top telling people who are struggling to make enough money to eat to “go and hire a coach to help you get a job” well kind of hard to do that when I had to move back with my parents because i was struggling to make rent and was starting to suffer because i was only eating every other day. I wish everyone in here the best of luck in finding what we are all looking for, someone who actually runs a business whose highest motivation is profit, when profit stands at the top of the pyramid, all below suffer

    • I feel for you and wish you the best of luck. When I was growing up in Western Massachusetts in a working-class immigrant family a long time ago, NO ONE was ever out of work. The Springfield/Holyoke area had: paper mills; farms; air craft manufacturers; toy manufacturers; and a garment industry just to name a few. Check Springfield, MA out today. It is like so many other skeletons of a once-booming metropolis. Buildings boarded up; high crime; high unemployment. I have a doctoral degree and want to work part-time because my pension is too small for me to exist. I even have my own health insurance and do not need benefits. When I send my application into local universities, I get a pat answer saying, “You meet the MINIMAL requirements.” In FLORIDA to teach ESL at night? Give me a break. Half the people here in Miami don’t even speak English. I do think it is my age, but they don’t even see me in real life. I’ve always looked at least ten years younger than I am, and do not do any of the things you describe as “no nos.”

  81. Coming from the banking fraud capital of the world, England, here’s my recommendation.

    Stop drowning the financial terrorists in trillions of free money, and maybe they’ll have to start actually ‘lending’ (what a novel thing for a bank to do) into the economy instead of just going down the casino on the Fed’s wallet. If you don’t throw free money at the banks then they have to seek profits from traditional areas, like investing in businesses. Businesses who will then have the capital to grow and employ, emphasis on employ.

    All the problems listed in this article start with “you”, it’s “your” fault you cannot find a job. Never mind the world is still attempting to recover from the biggest financial crisis in living memory, created by banking fraud, and then was subject to plundering to the tune of trillions by the banking system. A banking system that continues to be drowned in tens of billions ‘every month’ thanks to the Fed’s QE3. None of that money is reaching businesses, it’s just going to speculation on stocks and shares, pumping up the stock market and creating false indicators of a recovery.

    You don’t negotiate with financial terrorists by allowing them to rampage and plunder across your country, and then blame the public for the economy not being able to employ them. The jobs aren’t going to appear until you do something about these parasites by actually enforcing the rule of law.

  82. *Reads statement about how disgusting smoking is. Scrolls down and see’s author is obese.

    Loses faith in rest of the argument.*

  83. NeedAJobSinceYesterday

    Talk about a smack upside the head! I’m guilty of #16, I’m learning to be more honest about myself. I’ve noticed people are much more willing to give you a chance when you can honestly evaluate yourself. Under pressure from an interview I get nervous and can become too focused on sounding perfect. Interviewers like people who can be real with them.

  84. Stop your whining people. It is ridiculous when I hear people throw around the word racism when referring to appearance. That is an insult to anyone that ever lost out to getting a job for a true case of racism. You all think you are smart getting marked all over your body and have the nerve to judge someone that worked hard to get to their position to hire qualified people that are a certain reflection of their business. Why should they hire you , when they know your appearance, whatever you bring to the table, is going to drive away customers. It makes no sense. If you were in a hiring position, you would think the same way.

    • Dear George,

      Screw off. Racism is still very well alive in the deep south. Black and white people still eat at restaurants at different times, shop at different places, and there are some places you just don’t go around here if your not a certain ethnicity. Hey I got an idea, why don’t you come walk in my shoes, and show just everyone just how easy it is to get a job. Then come back at the end of the month, and tell me how many hours you had to work, to make ends meet. Its so easy to sit there and babble that everyone needs to stop crying, but when it comes to survival, you would not make it. I didn’t choose to have a Hispanic name nor did I choose to be of a half Hispanic background, I was born that way. Just like the people who judge me and sneer at me, because I’m a minority, I am not good enough to work with the white or black people, and its sad to say they were raised that way. Then when you do find a job have fun being called racial slurs every day and people making racist jokes and snickering behind you back. The easiest thing is for me to move back home to my more culturally inclined community, where they see everyone as grey.

      • I’ll just copy/past my response to the other commenter:

        I couldn’t agree more. I am so sick of minorities whining about racism. Do individual cases of racism exist? Sure. Is it the main reason people don’t get hired, the way it was in the 60s? Of course not.

        There’s plenty of racism against whites going on, including the institutionalizes racism called Affirmative Action! But, of course, no one talks about that.

        And for the record, I am not white. I have been unemployed/underemployed for almost 6 years now, and not once have I claimed or even thought it was due to racism!

        • Just for the record, it is impossible for non-Whites/Ethnic Minorities within the US to be racist.

          Oppression is INHERENT in racism. Systematic discrimination is inherent in racism. Racism is not a matter of one’s individual experience. It is a belief which drives action toward or against an entire ‘race’ of people. Historically, systematically, and logically, it IS IMPOSSIBLE for ethnic minorities in the US to OPPRESS Whites in America. The American education, financial and social structures are designed to benefit ‘middle’ America, which is predominantly White. Since there are larger numbers of Ethnic Minorities in the US who have lesser income, lesser education and less ‘desirable’ social status, this pushes us – en masse – to the frays or margins of society. I could go on, but for now think about that, let it sink in, and please do not use this sentence again. It is inherently and emphatically incorrect.

          • A person who is a non-white can be a racist against his own race. A prime example is the Jim Crow Laws where they tried to pit light-skinned blacks against dark-skinned blacks which is still prevalent in “pockets” of society in America today. I am a black man from the South and hands down I know for a fact that in 2013 we still have racism. It is just different: back in the days it was blatant but nowadays it is more subliminal is all.

          • Just for the record, that is a bunch of absolute nonsense. Read what you wrote and notice how often you contradict yourself. And you sure do make some ludicrous assertions that happen to be factually incorrect. For example, there are NOT “larger numbers of Ethnic Minorities (capitalized for some odd reason) in the U who have lesser income”. That is blatantly FALSE. Do you homework before making such a ridiculous post.

      • Did you even read my post? I was sticking up for minorities. I see people complain and call tattoo judgment for job racism, when it is not.

    • I couldn’t agree more. I am so sick of minorities whining about racism. Do individual cases of racism exist? Sure. Is it the main reason people don’t get hired, the way it was in the 60s? Of course not.

      There’s plenty of racism against whites going on, including the institutionalizes racism called Affirmative Action! But, of course, no one talks about that.

      And for the record, I am not white. I have been unemployed/underemployed for almost 6 years now, and not once have I claimed or even thought it was due to racism!

    • If you’re not from the South you pretty much wouldn’t understand. I’m a 20 year old black male with not a drop of ink anywhere on my body. Here’s a little bit of food for thought. Last summer I walked out of Chevron from paying for my gas. As I was walking there was this car parked right beside me with whites in it and this white woman looked at me like I was the filthiest thing on this earth. I even saw her grip her seat. I found it quite funny. Here was my appearance that day: Medium length dreadlocks, white t-shirt, jeans(not sagging), and wrk boots. Now I had just gotten off work so I had a few grass stains on me so what? And o yea we were driving the exact same car. That look on her face when she saw me get in the drivers seat was priceless. Racism is still going strong in some parts of ALABAMA!

      • I think that you should not allow another person to make you feel bad. Why do you have to care if some ignorant female looks at you with a nasty attitude? This woman is probably uneducated, from a low social class and full of defects and you allow her to feed her inferiority complex just by accepting she is looking bad at you. Don’t! Ignoring her would have been the best technique to make her feel invisible. Move to the North , why do you want to live in a place were people has so little to do that they have to look at people as means of entertainment.

  85. Your too judgemental everyone should be allowdd a voice and a difference people like you fail the community over your opinions your a complete moron long as your worker is responsible looks professional on job and does his dues he should not be judged age. race. whtever they have. jobs should not be done online i mean look at walmart they call no matter what if you get a certain score. And it so happens i have proof as the walmart in my town is full of drug addicts i still know today. which deeply sadens me with this community considering walmarts policys. Its because of you systems today college students suffer with a degree because they know no one and cant get around.

    • This is America if you look like s— you’re gonna have a harder time finding a job. Yeah the economy sucks, so deal with it. The comments on this article are sad. Maybe the reason why so many people are unemployed is because they have your same mentality. The guy who wrote this article is obviously not a moron. Follow the tips in this article and you might even get a job. Seriously though it’s not that hard to find a job.

    • “everyone should be allowdd (sic)a voice and a difference people like you fail the community over your opinions your a complete moron long as your worker is responsible looks professional on job and does his dues he should not be judged age, race, whtever (sic) they have”

      Sorry – I agree with every one of the above pointers as they are COMMEN SENSE. Unfortunately it is people such as yourself who feel we should embrace diversity and that companies are there to provide you money so you can live your lifestyle. Companies are there to make money. They will not do so if the first person the customer sees when they enter the establishment is a pink haired pierced girl (or boy) who has a ‘can’t care less – they don’t pay me enough to smile’ attitude. Get real, use a spell checker and correct your grammar and join the rest of the human race who work and unfortunately having to subsidize these people with welfare.

  86. #19-You’re too old. Let’s be real. I am well-qualified, pretty, extremely youthful and not in an old lady way at all. I could prove that but I don’t want to incriminate anyone. I am over 60. I was laid off by a fortune 500 after 20 uber-devoted and hard-working years due to downsizing but they admittedly got rid of all those over 50 and protected younger folks. You’re d—– right I’m angry. I’m freaking infuriated because I was a very good employee with a great reputation and respected by my peers all across the company as well as my customers. To the max and then some. Management was drooling for me to take a cut to 1/3 my salary and move to the low cost center. But I wasn’t good enuf to protect.

    I have been searching for a year and my experience is mainly in customer service and I’m talking heavy duty from pre sales to post ship and beyond. I knew every in and out and niche inbetween, am smart, creative and resourceful. I have an “Atta Girl” file that I printed out before I left – 2 large boxes of nothing but good will, thanks and praise. Jobs like mine have been parsed up and outsourced.

    Over-qualifed? Please. That’s a load.

    Your list is arrogant.

    I’ve had offers and a couple of jobs actually. I’ve taken jobs for 13.50 an hour that want your blood.

    Ah who cares.

  87. Seems to me that The job you are applying for has to be close to an EXACT match to your previous position. If you took a lesser or unrelated position in another industry your application will be rejected or recruiters won’t submit you because your experience won’t be ‘recent enough’. If you don’t have the laundry list of requirements and in many cases the ‘prefered’ you also likely won’t hear.
    I have been self employed since August 2012, I own 3 delivery truck routes but still looking for a regular job in my field of accounting & finance. I can’t use this on my Resume so it looks like I am unstable and have been unemployed since then, only scattered temp work.

  88. I did not agree with this author because there are too many x variables. Do you know how many managers smoke? Have piercings? And I am not talking about 30 or younger. I worked in the medical field and you could have as many tattoos or piercings you wanted. Patients loved it! The other information is either cliche or ridiculous.

    Why don’t most employers post the salary with the job posting, so you do not have people asking for something you deem “outrageous.” Pay can be very different depending on the company. I worked at a job making $10.00 then had a job offer for the same job making $15.00.

    Why are you not giving better advice? How about help with finer details that might help people.

    *Look up company before an interview, and average salaries for that job before the interview.

    *Bring your own interviewing questions for you to ask a potential employer. (EXAMPLE – I asked my current employer how long the most senior employee has been there, and how new the newest employee was)

    *Try to look around the interviewers office and see if there’s any personally items, example a photo of them fishing, and bring that up. (Don’t ramble) Mention that you happen to be an avid trout fisher yourself. (make the interviewer relax and feel like they know you)

    *I’d like to know this one – a lot of the companies are having lengthy forms to fill out on their site, along with that they ask what RACE you are and SEX. If I don’t answer (which it’s listed as optional) Does that hurt me?

    *How long should I wait to call the employer, for feed back after the interview?

    *How do you make yourself stand out when companies are now only accepting resumes through a cookie cutter resume they designed.

    *What ways can you save time when applying for multiple jobs? So that qualifications stand out more pertaining to that position?

    Sorry I could go on and on. Just would like to read something that helps, not cliche advice that most people with common sense know about.
    That’s like me giving advice to someone going to court – “don’t dress like a slob, or wear a hat.”

  89. Due to being out of work for a substantial period of time, I cannot get a job (or interview) for love nor money. The sacrifice of previously being a family carer seems to have put paid to my chances of getting another role whatever I try, despite having excellent previous experience and the requisite qualifications for the vacancies that I apply for. It is now a massive worry for me and incredibly stressful.

  90. Or if you are like me and biracial (Mexican and German), you will never get a call back from any employer because they think your an illegal, because you have a full blown Mexican name. Most HR people jaws drop when they see I am white skinned, bright blue eyes, light brown hair, and look very European. Yes, the only time I ever get a call back is when people see me in person. I drastically want to change my name, but my soon to be wife loves it too much, but after awhile the macaroni and hot dogs for dinner, and no cable will sink it in to her.
    Another thing I would like to add:
    Don’t ever ask me if I speak Spanish, just because I have a Mexican name- It is highly, highly offensive, when it is the first question that comes out of an interviewers mouth. Forget about the fact I have a degree in Religion, and Law Studies, that I am able to translate over 6 languages. Yes I speak Spanish, I am not very fluent in it, and have no desire to fluent in it. Most of the Spanish language I learned was in the meat packing plant, and I don’t want to have to tell you, that 25% of my Spanish vocabulary is “naughty” words.

    • So, I am unemployed because my attitude stinks, I don’t dress correctly, I am overqualifed, I smoke, I am depressed and because I can’t communicate?


      I think it is more to do with the fact I am 43, am a redundant Civil Servant and have been unemployed for two years in a recession where graduates are applying to work in Macdonalds.

      nuff said.

      • I agree with you so much. I am 45, have a masters degree in social work. Ten years ago I got divorced, had my third child, and was let go from a pharm sales company. For the last eight years I have gotten and eventually lost over 20 jobs, minimum wage jobs, 7.35 an hour. I have been applying for so many jobs with no replies, and only two interviews. I have stopped trying for the last seven months due to the constant failures. My ex husband is trying to take my children away due to my lack of having a full time career. I do receive disability benefits from depression but I want so badly to work, and be proud and not poor anymore. I think age, weight and lengthy job lapses for staying at home with kids all these factors I believe are keeping me unemployed(Wal Mart even wont hire me). I cant get younger and I fear I will be unable to ever have a decent job again.

  91. Well, reading this simply brought out the worst thoughts I had and thus confirmed them. This guy would never hire me and I would never want to work for him or alongside him. This harsh reality needs a reality check. I remember after months of unemployment the last thing I wanted to hear was “network.” “Well, you just need to network.” “Maybe you’re not networking enought.” If I can take that word, crunch it up and step on it I would. Telling me I need to network is like saying don’t forget to let the air in through your nose and mouth so that you can breath. Maybe I should use soap when I can clean myself as well. This guy does not have an inkling of the reality what it is to be long-term unemployed. Wait a second, why don’t I go out and start a business!!! Another brilliant idea. Maybe all the unemployed people should start a business or an association of some sort. Wait, that’s not a good idea. People on the other side of our reality might think we’d be organizing a revolt of some sort. Gosh darn it, I’m out of ideas…..oh well, maybe I should keep practicing for interviews with fake companies that are really trying to scam me. I’ve had more interview opps with them than actual ones. Ouch!

  92. Interesting. I just filled out a job application where they ask if you smoke or not, yes or no. So you check the appropriate box, and then it says, if you check non smoker, but testing reveals you do smoke, you will be let go. I wonder what happens if you check the yes box and are somehow hired, but the testing reveals that you don’t smoke? Are you are let go for that too??? Hummmf!

    • Yes. The USA is now so obsessively consumed with zeal to make sure that poor, miserable, common people like ourselves cannot have a single IOTA of pleasure in our life that even something like smoking is now “evil” (I don’t even smoke, but I still think it is insane the way people who do are treated). This country has such a strange phobia of CERTAIN chemical substances (while a love affair with “state sanctioned” drugs – antidepressants, etc.)that it borders on pathological.

      I can’t stand this country’s ridiculous “motherly” policing anymore. If I had the money to leave this horrible place, I would. But, since jobs that pay a living wage are hard to find here, that won’t be happening soon.

  93. It is obvious that Hecker has no comprehension of unemployment because, if he did, he would know how stupid his comments really are. There are three things he chooses to ignore:

    1. Most people won’t have anything to do with the unemployed so the networks and connections quickly disappear if you lose your jobs. Those contacts are vital if you want to get a job.

    2. The unemployed don’t apply for jobs they can’t do because they don’t have the money or the resources to do that. The actual problem isn’t that the unemployed are applying for jobs they can’t do, it’s that they don’t understand the jargon routinely used by human resources departments with the result they don’t get the jobs that they actually can do.

    3. The unemployed don’t have money. It’s bloody expensive having to go through a tedious rigmorale to get a job where the rigmorale has no relevance to determining suitability for the job. It’s the pointless jumping through hoops only to be told at the end of it all that we haven’t got the job that really angers us – and which is largely responsible for putting people on wafer-thin budgets into extreme poverty.

    • refering to: the part about smokers: it got nothing to do with us smoking or not would u not hire a fat person because he/she is fat or because of hair colour! not all smokers smoke all the time.

  94. I got fired for reporting racist abuse towards an Asian colleague. My the abuser in question was my boss. He got a warning from HR, but the abuse continued until the Asian colleague packed up and left. I was fired not long after.

    As I was picking up my things, my former employer promised me he would make sure I would never work near the city again His last words to me were “Let this be a lesson to you”.

    I have now been unemployed for over 12 months. I’m a mix of anger and depression over the fact that I have made an enemy of a powerful man in my industry.

    • Robin, I wish you could have a cent for every tonne of respect I have for you as I have LOADS! My husband is Asian and he just learned to swallow the abuse as noone ever seems to even come close to standing up for him so he feels like he’s just being a trouble maker if he makes any fuss. You are one in a million. Wishing you all the best asap!

    • well, well, well. The US, the land of the free… LOL. Maybe not so much. Had the ‘pleasure’ of living and working there for a while in 2005 and was happy to leave, back to good ol’ Europe. Never looked back.

      • It IS the land of the free. If you own a business you can hire who you want, based on an interview process.

  95. This piece is obscene when you consider how depressed the people reading it can be. I see Heckers tells us now, how it IS, and instructs us to bend over and assume it is the only chance we have to pay the bills. He doesn’t care about the world.

    Don’t bend over for Heckers, the man, or anyone else in the ruling Guan-xi. Get what you are worth and what you need without such 50%! compromises. It is in everyone’s best interest.

  96. How do I network without coming across as a total douchebag (for lack of a better word)that is begging for a job? I am serious. Everytime I take a professional posture among friends and acquaintances in hopes it will land me a job I feel like a total smuck!

  97. SPOT ON! My observation is that unfortunately, ‘mature’, long-time unemployed are much like ‘mature’, never-married women. You’ll know all you need to know after listening for 5 mins, you’ll know more than you want to know after 10 and after fifteen, you’ll be plotting your get-away- no matter how beautiful and well put-together. Demanding, arrognat and pissed-off is never a good look.

    • It’s not always a person’s fault that they are unemployed. It’s also not always a person’s fault that they are not married.

      This attitude is so tiresome. But, of course, even just pointing this out in a reasonable way gets you labeled as “demanding, arrogant and pissed-off”.

      It’s quite the catch-22 situation.

  98. it is good and real. A good guidance for freshers who are still jobless. if they avoid the above 18 things definitely can get good job including me. Thank you career realism which give a real time examples.

  99. I prepare, dress right, take care of personal hygiene, smile, am friendly, make sure I’m qualified, follow instructions and all the rest. But I still am not being hired.

    I’m sure I am not alone. Some of us have done everything “right” but are still struggling to find work.

    It’s difficult enough to endure this without also being blamed for it.

    • The problem to all of this is the stated out loud in the article above
      “1. You aren’t networking enough. Almost all jobs these days are found through networking.” Bascially for every position you see listed on a job board 80% of the time it will be filled friend or family memeber of an employee that works there! I cant tell you how many times these people end up being terrible employees. Even worse, they never get fired because of the connections they have at the company. The employer would have to fire both or none because the office drama that would follow would end up costing the employer money.

      • Oh I’m with you wholeheartedly spur 34. Nepotism is something very prevalent here in Miami, Florida. Whole there’s nothing wrong with recommending a family member or even a closer friend, it just seems kind of wrong when it happens with increased frequency. Smootherr thing would be how one would have to behave extra

  100. To #10 “Your attitude stinks”

    Take your own advice Heckers you’re not exactly coming off like Ghandi. I sense hostility in your thinly veiled admonitions.

    • JW….I would not agree with you more! The guy that wrote this…..Heckers….sounds like one heck of an idiot! And, very out of touch with reality on many counts

  101. I am a perfect candidate for any job but trying to land one in Australia is trying to locate a polar Bear in the Simpson Desert!

    • I agree, its becoming harder and harder, no, try impossible if you are an Australian aged 50 and over to find a paid job. You even have a hard time when applying for unpaid work – People her are fighting over these things are so bad here. We have a population of 23 million, and 2 million of these are either unemployed or underemployed – most of them mature-aged women with academic qualifications. What does this say about Australia?

  102. I have tattoos and piercings and I smoke. Because most employers prefer a professional look, what’s the big deal about wearing a more conservative shirt, taking out the piercings for an hour and not smoking before the interview? You’re supposed to be making a great impression. Is it really so important that you’d risk not getting the job over a picture on your arm or a stud in your nose? I don’t know the author of this but it seems like he’s just giving his opinion on how you can improve. If you don’t agree with his thoughts, why not leave the page instead of posting negative comments?

    • The advice is given in a way thats is difficult to receive. When you write an advice column, your goal is to write in a way the is helpful. The author really missed the mark on this one.
      Also, do you plan on wearing that conservative shirt in the summer and to the company picnic? You really think its gonna sit well once you get the Job and are discovered to be a smoking, stud wearing liar? If a company’s culture excludes those types of things you’ll be right back on the job hunt.
      If you have you have to hide yourself at the interview, be prepared to keep hiding. That’s what the big deal is.

    • Because, I am one of the many here whom have gone to every interview offered in the past, in professional attire and not with any body piercings our foul smokers halitosis…..that has been told, I’m overly qualified or that the position was given to a more qualified candidate.only to find out the position was offered to either a younger trainable person or simply reposted.

  103. Reginald T. Rayner

    And if you’re such a great consultant, tell them to fix their mobile site.

    Oh, and to add to the list of things I’d rather do than keep working for you: go to the desert, overseas, with a rifle, with three mutinous PFCs and an a—— First Sergeant. At least the Sergeant would show me the respect and dignity befitting a subordinate, the PFCs would have some conception of how ignorant they were, and exchanging lead with some Al Qaeda m———— would be a welcome release after dealing with your workplace environment.

  104. Reginald T. Rayner

    18 Good Reasons I Would Rather Work Hard For Your Cmpetitors Than Pretend To Work For You And Would Rather Get Paid To Pretend To Work For You Than Actually Work For You

    1 through 18: See 18 Good Reasons Why You Are Still Unemployed by John Heckers

    I would rather my own son tighten his belt than watch my ego dissolved by a fascist like you, and If I didn’t have a son I would rather starve. McDonalds is hiring.

  105. Phillip Roy Wager

    ALL of the statements in this article are EXTREMELY assuming. The writer just KNOWS every thing. What an arrogant elitist. God I hope he gets fired, and can’t get a job for 3 years or more. By his own rules, he wouldn’t get a job.

  106. Sacramento Bee Article on 3/7/2013: …”Some have attributed the more extended process (time it takes to land a job) to a mismatch between the requirements of the 4 million jobs available and the skills held by many of the 12 million unemployed.”

    So, in a nutshell, there are 12 million unemployed and only 4 million jobs. Kind of mind boggling, eh? So, don’t be too hard on yourselves.

    I’m now self-employed (Real Estate Broker and Artist). Is it tough? Yes! Is it worth it? To infinity.

    • When you proclaim yourself a victim, do not be surprised if you become the victim. People need to brainwash themselves that they are the best for any job and transcend that confidence on an interview.

      • Geo,
        I and possibly many others herein, would agree with you on smoking as not a smart activity or unhealthy. However when you say that we the people ought to brainwash ourselves to do anything to land that interview, I feel compelled to retort by humbly opining that; sufficient brain washing has been done by the US Government and educational system, not to forget the load of crap employers advertise only to bait and switch things on a prospect regarding salaries commensurate to educational levels attained, etc…only to now have to reboot my thinking into auto culpability and acceptance of the status quo. Just as we the people have been led to reg arding GMO crops and food as being safe for human consumption by the US FDA, so has the same sold,” we the people”, to the highest bidder,…so to speak. I seriously believe the issue goes beyond having to resort to self motivation when most incentives to do so have been or are being outsourced and our country may someday resemble the reason the first settlers escaped Europe in the first place. Face it, telling myself,” I am worthy and I shall get that job because I am confident and so on,….”, will not be realized if I don’t have a chance at an interview because of my age or stealth prejudices the employers may exercise…

      • Geo, regarding your last input about your being a high achiever as reflected by your attainment of sole and you’re rights to refuse giving someone whom doesn’t fit the ideal profile for your business; I agree and say fair enough.However, I find it necessary to inform the likes of you that; I have no visible tattoos and the only one I do have is the eagle, globe and anchor tattooed on to my left deltoid back in the eighties when I served in the USMC. I have no piercings and I an a non smoker. I know how to dress properly for any interview and have the bearing, decorum and educational level needed for most

      • interviews related to my field of nursing. Sir, I am a licensed professional and not until recently have I had to worry about losing my job and having to start at zero, at my age. This is not something that has been a major concern for me or others in my field until recently. I still congratulate you for your achievements, despite the times.

  107. A simple google search of “joylovehone” or “JANICES WALLOCKES” shows this same message has been spammed across hundreds of websites. I wouldn’t put too much stock into it.

  108. Greetings Ms. Wallockes,
    I wish to ask you about your experience with this person whom helped you with what seems too many claim they have power to do, but always seem to come up short of their promises.. My email is Please, let me know if we can communicate?


  109. yeh he sure has a feudilistic approach in todays fast pace of life, .one of those mediocre empty vessels who make noice at such situations.Just because you r a boss that doesnt mean u r superior to the ones u r employing ,outside those 4 walls people like u are ignored to the core.AT TIMES bosses feel less worthy in an interview IT is common with the AMOUNT OF qualifications and exposure the employee posseses why would we work with boses stuck in the same rig-mororl for wha? ta decade or 2 not knowing anything else beyond what they have seen.if u r choosy about choosing s r we we also asess guys like u in interviews and dont turn up for accepting ur offers for the very same reason,we r not bound by you ,you need us more than we do only a matter of time.

  110. This economy has put all the power into the employers hands to do as they please with no laws or rights to really protect US citizens and job seekers against discriminating. The banking system and the government created this messed up economy baled each other out in the name of big business, and we the people are left holding the bag of %&*@.

    • Very true J. Wong!!!!
      And clowns like this one feel compelled to blame the ones holding their bag of shit……this country is in dire straits……

  111. Apart from making your name, your article suggests so many levels of ‘incorrect’ assertions of failings by jobseekers it should never have been printed.

    If you are indeed a ‘top notch’ HR guru then you’ve failed in HR relations, created offence, categorised individuals into groups, and generallly offendied everyone – except your own people group.

    Again this article should never been printed.

    It’s source is the authors own overviews which appear to be dominated by pride and arrogance.

    • Absolutely RJ!!!!!!!
      Apparently this creep has ill sentiments that permeate into his article…..never should have been allowed the publicity.

  112. Nice.
    You seem like the type of old-fashioned a—— I would definitely find the idea of working for truly unattractive.

  113. Posts like this one make me feel like I am more worthless than the bum who doesn’t try to find a job at all. After spending months of 40 hr a week job searching, you’re telling me that I can’t even ask for what I am worth? According to this, the only problem I have is not networking/begging people I barely know for a job. And yep, I get angry but I save that for dinner conversations with my tattooed and pierced friends who have jobs.

    I’m jobless. Not a loser.

  114. The reason job seekers whinge and whine about how hard done by they are is because:

    1/. the process is inherently unfair
    2/. the concerns of jobseekers go unheard and unacknowledged in society.

    • John,

      You’re so right. Who can fathom, and work with, a system that requires qualification and experience, but refuses to accept the dictum that time is the price of all experience, refuses to employ that sector that has taken time and earned experience?
      Maybe those who have assets should rescue us by selling up, buying shares and putting some senior staff and bureaucrats on the unemployment list.

  115. So, because one may have been terminated, it is your dull-minded opinion that the firing was well deserved? I am utterly disgusted with your type. With a face like a child molester, overweight and pedantic in your vantage point towards people whom wear tattoos, piercings, are depressed and have fallen victim to an economy totally fabricated by the comes of white, right wing, possibly Christian, Anglo Saxon , selfish and evil pukes like you, it’s no wonder so many detractors have you. I would be very careful if I were you Hecker or Heckler, whatever your name really is, get your information right and do not assume what you do about others whom are not like you. Your stinking arrogance and unwelcomed contributions herein are just that, unwelcomed. Your advice as well as your profile, leaves much to be desired. Your lapse of judgment conveys the message of mental weakness and antisocial demeanor.

    • The more I read this, the more I think it is the way it’s written, rather than the content itself. Don’t get me wrong, the content is antiquated, promotes prejudice, and highly negative, but the tone is also negative; Moreover, it is colored with an abrasive, elitist tone that is not at all helpful to the intended audience. I almost feel like he had a smug grin on his face while writing this. It is most unfortunate, though, that we are at the whims of employers who share his point of view.

  116. This is why people should stop looking for office jobs… They don’t exist anymore. Forget the suit and tie thing, the 1990s are over…. I am currenty a full time dishwasher making 9.00 per hour. I have a college degree and 10+ years of management experience. I’ve given up on my dreams of having an office job. My new dream is to move up to being a cook so I can make $25000 per year salary.

    • Nucky…..I have spent 25yrs in an office. Believe me…its the next best thing to death. Dont feel bad about not having some awful job working with awful people. Try to build on what you have now – ie how about doing an apprenticeship as a cook or some such thing. And you know….America… is going through a recession….it wont last…one day it willl be hiring again and if you still want it…the office job will be there.

  117. 18 Good Reasons? I found 2 that most people would not think of right off the bat.

    Are people really this stupid?

  118. Interesting. while i get your points… and they applied 30 years ago.. but now.. not so much. Specially if you live in a liberal area say like.. i dont know…. California! I have piercings, tattoos (VISIBLE) and work in an amazing office that lets you display everything about yourself. My boss feels making people feel they can be them self gets better work from the employees. Maybe update your approach a bit more sir. This isnt the days of Mad Men. Oh and also its a multi million dollar office that has been doing even better in the recession. Internet related…

  119. Its because he does`nt like you is all it is period its no different then a relationship …

    if a woman doesnt like you even if your nice its no different then a employer PERIOD !!!! end of story

  120. john- you forgot one buddy.

    what’s your impression of,”you cant get work because you’re fat.” being fat, how does that make you feel? just curious, because you seem to have all the answers.

  121. It actually makes me happy to read this guy’s useless article (because it has no value, just like his aging life philosophy, yes, but also) because it proves that the idiots in the 1% really are screwing over everyone else, and it ‘s not the fault of job seekers.

    Also I found it amply amusing to see the guy’s photo. He looks like a derelict bear causing terror in society that’ll soon be put down. Lets begin filling positions like his with people who have a useful new age perspective shall we? This guy is outdated and obviously never had anything novel to say anyway.

  122. Do Not take this guys advice, he is extremely arrogant and very judgmental and discriminating. Guess what the times have changed people have tattoos and piercings. They are not as taboo as they were when maybe you were something worth talking about. You are unprofessional for thinking they are unprofessional. This is discrimination. If I were to write a response to this garbage letter, I would write I do not hire old people because they are not open minded, and just so I’m clear, that would be a terrible thing to do. What someone is like on the outside has no bearing on them as a worker. I beat for every person with a tattoo, there are hundreds of unqualified assholes that this guy would hire and be disappointed with. Wake it man it’s 2013, not the 1800’s. Guess what woman can vote.

    • I have owned my business for 22 years and I am very successful. My clients as such are uncomfortable with tattoo people. That is their choice. We have a certain level of professionalism. Just because you used your individual rights to exert your freedom and ALTER your appearance permanently, does not give you the right that I should alter mine. I am proud of what I built and no smartass with cartoons on their body is going to tell me how to run my business. Individuality works both ways. You should have forseen your consequences. Oh by the way, many companies have stipulations that visible tattoos are not allowed, even in municipal jobs. That discrimination crap is old. Is it discrimination if I do not hire a man who comes to the interview with hair down to his rearend? Is it discrimination if I do not hire someone on the interview who smells or is wearing dirty clothes? It is the same thing. How dare some punk try to tell me how to run my business that I put many hours ,blood, sweat, tears and capital.

      • Since you are so proud of your business, why don’t you tell us the name of it so those of us who think you are living in the 19th century can make sure not to use it, Mr. Blood, Sweat, Tears, and Capital? I await what will be a non-reply. After all, we don’t want to upset potential clients, do we? Or are you going to say something like ‘tattoo-wearers would not be in my client base’? Of course, you examine each and every client to make sure they conform to your idea of what a client should look like, yes?

  123. Most honest advice I’ve heard yet. I do wish the older generation would be more open to visible tattoos though. It’s not a rebellious thing anymore, its simply our artistic outlet and another form of individualism.

    • You have your rights and I have mine. Tattoo people cost me money in my business and I will not hire them. They look nasty. I do not care how many people have them it will always look low class. Just like when people smoke, it is still unhealthy no matter how many people do it. Deal with it. You chose to alter your appearance and now you must lie in the bed you made. Maybe some of you people ought get temporary tattoos before you follow an f’en trend and scar your bodies forever.

      • you dont seem to understand. in the us atleast its not your right to employ discriminatory hiring practices. thats the law. also about tattoes. spoken like a typical american. incapable of acknowledging the world around them and the complete lack of diversity. so fly away worker bee. fly away.

        • Not discrimination, its choice appearance. Many companies and even govt jobs, disallow visible tattoos. In all seriousness, people need to think before acting impulsively. It can adversely affect your life. You are learning the hard way.

          • George is absolutely right. It is not at all illegal to refuse to hire smokers or individuals with visible tattoos. Employers can even refuse you a job if you fail or won’t take a pre-employment physical.

            The “anonymous” poster, however, is also absolutely right – many workplaces in many industries don’t think twice about an employee’s tattoos or piercings. This includes “knowledge” industries like software and advertising, but it also includes everything from electronics repair to retail to social work to slinging coffee (at a local chain or individually owned shop; not Starbucks). More useful advice would read along the lines of “If your appearance is unconventional, and this is important to you, you may be unemployed because you aren’t researching, targeting, and applying to the types of companies where you’d be the best fit, or you’re not convincingly selling your skills in making the business money to these companies.” The article writer acts as if we’re living in the 1950s, and all jobs are at suit-and-tie-mandatory insurance companies and law firms. (Today, even some lawyers have facial piercings!)

            I am in my 30s, and I have four piercings in each ear. My husband has facial piercings and his hair is long like a metalhead’s. Despite these apparently gross and offensive modifications, we landed interviews at some pretty corporate places, but we turned the offers down in favor of working for a company that is more casual and laid-back. Roughly 4 in 10 people under 45 have at least one tattoo, and in many industries, across many companies, how you’re “decorated” is no longer the focus – it’s what you can do to make the company money. I’m going to be hiring next month, and you can be sure that I’m not interested in whether my candidates have sleeves or labret rings or pink hair. No, I’m evaluating them on how FAST and how GOOD they are at production, which is all I care about, because that is what contributes to the bottom line.

    • I have the right to make as much money as I want. Deal with it. Individuality goes both ways. Maybe people need to think more about consequences before desecrating their body.

      • For the sake of clarity and articulation in this case, I hope you meant this:

        “I have the right to make as much money as I want [while abiding by the law in not discriminating against others and abiding other civil and social laws].”

        ….But, given your attitude, this seems unlikely.

        I presume you have no problem with women whose ears are pierced. Do let us know if you do. That is a permanent body modification. Yet, it is something no one blinks an eye at; in fact, women are complimented on their earrings all of the time. It’s “acceptable” because it is old news.

        And, now, in the year 2013, people also get compliments for things like *gasp* tattoos and straightened teeth. Both permanent body modifications, if you really dig in there.

        So, per your stated standards of qualification for hire, if an employer never liked the way earrings looked on women and has a thing for crooked teeth, well, by gosh it wouldn’t be discrimination to turn them away for their newly-straightened teeth (especially if they still have braces!), because of their feeling that’s just ghoulish. People with a wide, gleaming smile just make them nervous, and those chandelier earrings are too distracting to boot, so they’ve got to go.

        Ridiculous. Again, these things are acceptable because they’re old hat, so to speak, like nose jobs and enhanced lips. Would you turn down someone whose gotten those things done, or a facelift, or their ears pinned?

        …And I hope for the sake of all that is just, since a smoking habit is unhealthy, you stick to your principles and don’t hire anyone that eats sugar or fast food either. Seeing someone eat that stuff is disgusting – it’s unhealthy and causes cancer. …Right?

        Listing “tattoos” on the list of reasons a mom/dad isn’t qualified or shouldn’t be given equal opportunity to work to feed their family is ludicrous and is the real disgusting bit here.

      • You certainly do. You have the right to (in a business sense) step on, run over, skin, slam, and destroy as many people as it takes to make that money. You can lie, cheat, steal, and get away with it when the topic is business. You certainly do have those rights.

        But don’t be surprised when you are laying in a ditch after you wreck your car and the only reason someone stops is to take pictures of your bloody corpse so they can post it on facebook and laugh about it. After all, people who are like that are the same people you would hire in a second, based on what I am reading.

  124. You really discriminate against people with depression? Do you do that to people with lupus and diabetes? That’s a bunch of crap. It’s great you think anti depressants just make their whole life all better, but they usually don’t. In fact even telling a person to go on anti depressants for a life circumstance, like loosing a job is a stupid move. You don’t take psychiatric drugs for life circumstances. After a death you grieve. After a loss of a job, you grieve. It would be incredibly unprofessional and foolish of a psychiatrist to give somebody, who’s just lost their job, antidepressants.

    And you sir are somebody I would never work for.

    • Thank you for this comment, Elizabeth. This guy is an over-inflated baffoon who has no place giving mental health advice…he’s overestimated the value of his own opinion and he’s playing with fire.

      • I like the guy. Think he brought good points. People are angry because they see themselves as the rejected, in those points.

        • No, I think people are annoyed by the tone, and the contradictory and/or condescending assumptions inherent in the “strikes against” them. Take these two:

          “We interviewed one person for a $30K job who had been making $70K. Frankly, we’re not going to hire someone with that huge of a salary gap. It isn’t the problem of employers you have lived beyond your means (…) Don’t go asking for a large salary and tons of perks. You might well have to bite the bullet and take much less to get off of the unemployment rolls.”


          “Realistically, I’m not going to hire someone with 10+ years of experience with a great deal of responsibility in their last job for an entry-level job. Entry-level jobs will be filled by entry-level people. All you do when you apply for these things is annoy the employer.”

          This writer is saying, “Don’t think you can get a job earning 70K because no one pays that anymore. You should be grateful for a 30K job, but don’t go thinking you can interview for 30K jobs, either because you’re over-qualified and will just annoy employers.” And it doesn’t seem like Mr. Ex-70K ASKED for 70K, either. No, his crime was having the audacity to take this writer’s contradictory advice and interview for jobs where he would “take much less just to get off the unemployment rolls.” It seems like unemployed mid/senior-level workers are damned if they do, damned if they don’t, doesn’t it?

          Also crude is the assumption that the guy “lived beyond his means” simply because he used to earn in the high five figures. (How dare he make that much money! It can’t be because he is a manager or a senior-level worker, or he came from a city with a high COL. It must mean he bought a summer home and a half-dozen limousines!) And the assumption that unemployed people can AFFORD job-search coaches, doctors’ visits, and antidepressants. And the assumption that the true grief over a job loss is a mental illness that needs to be treated with heavy psychotropic drugs that introduce a laundry list of side effects – side effects that may incapacitate an unemployed person MORE than the mild to moderate situational depression that naturally comes with unemployment.

          My husband and I are now productive members of the workforce. But a year ago, we weren’t. My 70K management job was eliminated and replaced with contractors as a cost-cutting measure, and my husband’s 45K job was sent overseas for the same reason. We remember very well how demoralizing, difficult, and anxiety provoking unemployment was for us, and equally, we remember how painful it felt to get this type of condescending advice from friends and family who thought they were being helpful.

          In truth, NONE of these points applied to us – we simply lived in a desolate part of the former manufacturing belt, with a sky high unemployment rate, and moving across the country quickly solved the problem, since we were working within DAYS of landing in our new home. I agree that some unemployed individuals may be acting in a counterproductive fashion, but there are more who, in good times, would have their pick of jobs and then some. They are out of work because we are in a serious recession with close to 20% real unemployment, and a job market offering, at best, one position for every four people out of work, and in many markets, one position for every 11-12 people out of work.

  125. Jeez, it’s no wonder why many jobless just give up and stay on unemployment and other assistance, rather than uselessly submit to this sub-humanizing process.

  126. Hate the Human Race

    WTH! I have SERIOUS problems with the following items:

    #6: Do you seriously want to hire some young, partying, “lost-weekend”, Lindsay Lohan type and pay for their inevitably long-term rehab stays, or go for the true experience that businesses need to stay afloat? Dementia is NOT inevitable for experienced folks – partying, however – well, the horror stories in the news EVERY day speak for themselves!

    #11 – ARE YOU KIDDING ME! Does this “writer” have TIES TO BIG PHARMA, or – heh heh – have FAMILY WORKING FOR BIG PHARMA? People need WORK – not PILLS thrown at them as the fix for what “ails” them – we ALL know what we need, and it sure as h*ll AIN’T PROZAC – so spare us all the insult to our collective intelligence, PLEASE!

    #12 – “DEAL WITH THE ANGER”, eh? And how do you suggest this happen, eh? Again, NOT by throwing desperately needed money at some overpaid Ann Landers-type that went through all these years of overly-snooty schools that Mumzy and Daddie paid for? Wrong answer – but thanks for playing “Insult the Long-Term Unemployed”!

  127. Hey John while your article is nice, try doing what I’ve been trying to do for the six past years, in the shoes of those trying to find a job.

    Graduate High-school into this mess of a garbage “economy”. Get a small little wee 4-hour minimum wage job that sucks garbage, apply, apply, and apply over and over for jobs. Do ALL the networking that you possibly can(including volunteering), and still get nothing.

    Why? Because apparently employers aren’t hiring, and apparently since you only have HS diploma you don’t have enough “experience”. Try going to college on a 4-hour minimum wage job and struggle while doing it, ontop of having to deal with recent lay-offs in your immediate family that has affected your stretched and hobofied finances even more. Be of minority decent and find getting a job even HARDER than for ‘average’ too.

    The American Economy has severely cheated people in more than one area. While CEO’s like yourselves get fat off of over-seas hiring, the backs of the people in the country are breaking down.

    The Post-Office is laying off hundreds of people. NOW the Navy is going to get “lay-offs”. This country is in a screwed up mess and it’s only getting worst. Who knows, hundreds of companies have already shut their doors downs and down-sized. How long will yours last?

  128. I have a great idea for how to get people back to work. Impeach the president. If we can get a decent human being into the office who will not spend like a drunken sailor, kill all possible job creating opportunities and stop throwing taxpayer money at his cronies who take the money and run (while they sell the companies in smaller parts off to China) then we will not have such harsh employment prospects. And John, you certainly are part of the problem. Advice columns are not your forte.

  129. John not everyone is fired for good reason. I’m surprised you would say that “anyone that is fired most likely deserves it.” You’re naive to say the least.

  130. John, not every employer is like that. My husband works for a very good employer, so does my brother in law. My sister works for a crap one, it is the Toronto School Board District. However, I used to work for a Home Depot, before I went to teacher’s college. In my interview, I was told to relax more and I took myself to seriously. It was summer, so the guy who interviewed me was wearing khaki shorts and a home depot tshirt. I was dressed very professionally, in one of the interviews I was asked to tell a joke. So, it very much depends who the interview is for. At Pitney Bowes, it was the most unprofessional interview in the world. He kept looking at his watch, he slurred his words, seemed uninterested, didn’t listen to my responses. Well, I did get hired and worked there for a year, I got pregnant and went on mat leave. While on mat leave, that boss was fired and when I tried to get my job back after mat leave, telling them mat leave was coming to an end. The new Manager would not call me back until I just gave up. I also had a friend sue that company because he went on temporary leave for surgery, when he recovered, they wouldn’t give him his job back. It meant more to him than me, because he sued and was off work for 3 yrs and he won, now he is back with Pitney Bowes but at a different location. So, honestly, all that talk of professionalism, I still think that it is a person like the rest of us that still puts his pants on one leg at a time like everyone else and we have to appeal to the human nature and adapt to the personality type in the interview. That boss who got hired some deserve to be there and others do not and some you wonder how in the world did they get that position, I am so much better than they are.

    I do agree with the smoking part, it is a disgusting habit, I can’t stand the smell, it gives me a headache, so if I was interviewing I wouldn’t hire someone that gives me a headache, but I am just the person behind the job and it bothers me. I also agree with the tattoo thing, to me it looks dirty, don’t like tattoos and I agree with dressing for the job you want because people do look at you and judge you, I do it everyday just going grocery shopping. First impressions matter. But other than that, it is just luck and how well your personality type fits the person responsible for hiring you. My husband is in a position where he is on a team of people that hire and so he sits on the interviews. My husband will tell you, he came home saying once that one guy had more qualifications than another guy, but they chose the other guy and will train, simply because they liked his personality more and they also needed an asian guy so that they meet the equality code that they go by.

  131. I have a legitimate question…what the hell are you supposed to do if you have a serious, rare, medical disorder and everyone is thrown off by it and they don’t want to hire you, what do you do?
    O, and to boot…your new in the area, you don’t have any real skills, and work history is pathetic and all choppy, cause of being in and out of the hospital!

    • Yes. This old-school thinking that choppy work history means “loser” is completely awful. Really, really. Life happens whether we like it to or not.

  132. The only thing I took away from this article is the fact that I would never want to work with you, for you or for someone like you. Your firm should be called Stereotype Central Inc. Could even partner with Illiterate Insensitive Corp. The way I see it, you’re lucky to be in work just now because you wouldn’t be let within 3 miles of a modern, Web 2.0 organization. Absolutely disgraceful piece of hate mongering writing. People that smoke,are depressed or tattooed aren’t eligible for work but you can write? Please send me a link to your book on double standards when it comes out on

    • Agreed and succinctly put. It didn’t make me feel better about being unemployed or make me feel like i had any better arsenal to finding a job. I DO take out 90% of my facial piercings for interviews but I leave one in for hygienic reasons and the fact that I don’t like to ‘lie’ to people. My ink is hidden during interviews but someday I may have some that peeks out. I can certainly be professional regardless of my outward appearance and my track record would show that. Bigots however seem to have the positions that make decisions and that just makes me feel like we’re living in Idocracy. My faith in humanity dwindles when I read articles as this, but is strengthened when I read replies as this. Good thing THIS wasn’t an interview as my morals cannot be compromised for a few bucks an hour. Sadly the result is that I live at home with a loving mother and I, myself, will likely not have the opportunity to raise a family without budget. A family that would increase the values of humanity rather than determent it.
      -Rant concluded.

    • Agreed! The author is so rude and arrogant and has perhaps forgotten the way he bombed his interviews before he finally got hired by morons like him.

      • Shame really. Part of me does think that this might be a cheap PR stunt to gain some traffic, which it has. Either way it’s deeply indicative of a significant rotting of the author’s morality, assuming its existence. I have and have friends that have battled depression and articles like these do nothing to help anyone.

  133. After being off work for a year because I had a son, I once got called back by an employer and she had the wrong resume. She said, so I see here you did some administrative work. I said that is correct. She said that it says here that you managed a call center. I was thrown off, I said uhhh, no, where are you reading this? and she said that by my uhhhh I didn’t sound so confident. I told her that she is throwing me off, does she have to correct resume. My name is Tanja and she said uhhhhh no, well I will schedule an interview with you anyway. At that point I was already turned off and said no thank you. Works both ways as well. I agree with not talking so much, but sometimes it is just luck and beauty and knowing the right people. Some employers have made huge mistakes in the interview and with me as a customer and I wonder how these people got hired in the first place. I had one apple representative, helping me with a film on my apple computer, after the session ask me for a hug. Weird, unprofessional people are everywhere and sometimes they hold high positions and have power over me who wants a job from them, but honestly, the job seeker has to be picky to because you also have to decide if this is the kind of person you want to work for.

    • Tanja, while you are absolutely right about the job seeker needing to be discerning in who they work FOR, I am hungry. Literally. I made $70K per year – for years – until being laid off. I have not worked more than a few weeks of temp jobs for over 3 years. I don’t smoke, have tattoos, an arrogant attitude, or seem desperate in an interview. I have read countless articles, network, researched, applied, and interviewed and yet still I have no permanent job. My former colleagues and friends are just as baffled as I am about it. But here’s the thing. I’m hungry. I don’t have the luxury of unemployment, and I don’t have a job. I am a good employee with multiple professional references. I just want to be useful and go to work every day. I wish I had the luxury of choosing a good boss. But I wish I just had a boss. ANY boss. :/

  134. I can’t tell you how many interviews I’ve had where the interviewer had not seen my resume before they sat down in front of me. I am a professional and my interviews typically involve meeting 3-4 people for the entire interview.

    This article reflects either young, entry level’s efforts, or was a satire meant for an SNL skit. Either way it is nonfactual and heinous. Then again I assume the author is getting paid, so he is employed and is churning out ### words a week. I have spent 20 years as a medical device engineer. When we BS people die. Apparently this author has a very low bar of expectation.

    • Over a year ago I had an unexpected phone interview where the woman asked me if I could do administrative tasks. I asked her to specify and she wouldn’t. It wasn’t until I got off the phone with her that I realized she must had not read my resume, because she would have had at least an idea of what type of tasks I could perform if she did.

  135. Last word

    18 Reasons Why You Cant Get A Good Employee

    1/. You wont shut up at the job interview
    2/. You are unprepared at the job interview and have no questions
    3/. You mispelled words in the job adv
    4/. You didnt have the courtesy to include a salary in the job adv
    5/. You use recruitment agencies
    6/. You dont acknowledge reciept of applications
    7/. You dont advise applicants of the outcome whether its an application or interview
    8/. You expect too much
    9/. You think you are doing applicants a favour offering employment
    10/. You discrimminate
    11/. You dont think in terms of transferable skills
    12/. You pay too little
    13/. You expect university qualifications for jobs that, realistically, require none
    14/. You are late for the interview
    15/. You are evasive when asked about the tasks you expect to be done on the job
    16/. Your application process is obnoxious
    17/. You cant demonstrate what concessions you will make to get a good employee
    18. You cant demonstrate how you work to keep a good employee

    In short…… intewrview poorly

    • I’m astounded by this, too. I think if the hiring interviewer talks for more than 20% of the time, they have already decided whether or not they are going to hire you. In their mind, there is a tiny square for an applicant to fit into, and they can “see” you either fitting into it, or not. You can generally tell pretty quickly. My last interview, the lady talked about 80% of the time. Still, each interview you go to is an education, so I just go with it, smile, watch, and answer how I think my qualifications could be a benefit in that particular role. One of these days I’ll find the right fit and be hired.

  136. Smoking is a legal activity and you’d be setting yourself up for a discrimination suit if you tell a candidate if you refuse to hire for that reason. Smokers KNOW they cannot smoke on the job; going 4 hours without a cigarette or pipe is not that difficult. I carry a small bottle of Febreeze with me and use it after my lunch hour.

    • Smoking is not a protected category, and it’s perfectly legal to not hire somebody for smoking. At any rate, there would be no indication that that was why someone wasn’t hired. They just wouldn’t be hired.

      All in all, a pretty jerky article, though.

    • I have seen job posts that include the pre requisite for employment is you are not a smoker. In fact I have seen it say smokers need not apply. Further they state that they perform a blood test to see if you do smoke. That is right here in the US. Yes it is a habit that isn’t ideal to health but as another person stated….it is legal and it has been around for quite a while. I firmly believe that in this new age of controlled social engineering entities want to re-invent right and wrong to have a firmer grasp on control. The concept if money and profits has taken higher priority over humanity. If desired results starts at birth to inaugerate socially engineered concepts it has a higher potential of success. Smoking is one of the focus areas considered socially unacceptable. It is primarily cultural as I have been to other industrialized nations where they smoke like chimneys and no one raised a stink. Sure…. some ppl don’t like it but they have bigger fish to fry than worrying about someone smoking unless it is gross disrespect to others. I also believe there is a certain amount of common sense in dress but doesn’t relate to overall qualification of an individual for any certain position. I believe there is too much focus on looks because it has taken a higher priority than quality. I’ve seen ppl in suits that are slime as frog juice and have less than quality work ethic and character but ppl accept them and ignorantly return to them no matter how many times it has been proven their quality is poor. I simplify it and call that deceptive and others ignorance or inability understand the phrase, “do not judge a book by its cover”.

    • I have had hired smokers and they get sick more often , spend more time taking breaks and they smell. Not a good investment. Throw in the fact that a person that knowingly abuses their body , is not that intelligent. I myself am in good shape and do not smoke and yes I hire overweight people. The difference is that you need to eat to live and to start smoking is quite frankly, ONE OF THE DUMBEST THINGS ONE CAN DO.

  137. I love how every time I google suicide because of unemployed this article always pops-up no matter how many ways I phrase it. It’s quite fitting seeing how this author points out how utterly hopeless it’s become. I wouldn’t be so damn depressed if one of you high and mighty #$%%#^ would give me a job.

  138. Chyson Telles-Petri

    Ok, some advice I believe is accurate about the shaving, the piercings,and just pretty much the physical stuff. But for the non-physical things, does anyone believe his advice works? No matter how good you do in an interview, it is not guaranteed. It’s NOT easy to get a job, if it was that easy, i think the unemployment rate would be very low. But Mr. John here makes it sound like everyone is losers, but believe me, if everyone keeps trying, there is no such thing as losers. Well what do you expect, John here has it in his head, he thinks he is superior to everyone else. But guess what, he’s equal just like the rest of us. He probably got it easy in his life, but guess what? I know more people including me have fought and still fighting too get a job, regardless how hard it is. I believe I fought more than John physically and mentally. If all of the other so called “superior employers” were in our shoes, they would barely know what too do. For me fighting for a job, at least I know i’m a fighter, not a person that will easily give up. And every one of you unemployed people, like me, could fight too get a job too, just gotta believe.

  139. Wow, I guess there is really no need to bother applying at all. This guy acts as if you follow his advice you will get every job. I remember a time when companies needed people to work and they would teach them the job. Now, companies hire a needless army of people to not hire other people. Sometimes you can do everything right and still not get the job…so there is really no reason to change a lot about yourself to try to please other people. Many of these companies constantly hire and HR loves to not hire people. They complain about applications and phone calls but they love to be the decider. They often hire the wrong people and they quickly leave. Why? Because there is no right person for the job! These are made up positions that require you to do other people’s job. Companies love to mix Finance and computer Science these days… well here is some news for you… to get good at one thing you have to do one thing and it takes time. A computer guy may know something about Finance and a Finance guy may know a little about programs… but to be really good you have to concentrate on your field. So, I would not change a whole lot about myself and become something that I am not… this guy is really telling you to lie to get hired. He believes because he is a big shot he knows more but he doesn’t. You can do all the things he says and still not get hired. There is no 2nd place… you either get the job or you don’t. I remember a time when you could work two low paying jobs to make ends meet… now you can not even get those. I think somewhere down the line management forgot what their job really is… it is to find talent… find good people and help them move up in the company and take on greater roles. Now, Managers look for someone who will sit still and thank them everyday for the job. Managers these days think they are on NCSI and they have a group of people who should run to them with information… while they play the star. In real life you have to earn respect, you have to know the job you are the head of and now too often managers do not. When this economy turns around people are not going to forget how they were treated and many companies are going to regret what they are doing now.

  140. Dear John,

    I wish getting a job was a lot simpler and rewarding than it really is. If it was 1970’s I could obtain nearly any career I wanted, the only thing holding me back may have been my gender. But now, ‘ism’ is a forgotten word as nearly all jobs make they’re potential employees beg.

    Thankyou John, you have made me realise it is not my fault I am unemployed. But it is definitely my resume that has let me down. I am over qualified for the jobs I’m going for and underqualified for the jobs I want. I’m too old; 45years, female and try too hard… Should I give up? No!

    I love life; I have a lot of hobbies and a humungous debt. I’m lucky; I also have a loving husband who understands the difficulty in re-joining the workforce after becoming redundant from a Factory Job.
    Yes I did just quit a job recently, not because I am lazy but because that workplace was very fraudulent. I am a very honest, reliable and caring person who has no difficulty learning new tasks or information. Plus I am very energetic and have a strong work ethic.

    But, I also believe the expectations and qualifications required now are becoming a joke; Why does a person with a Certificate 2 or less, get an opportunity to become a trainee but a person with the wrong degree or career path above Certificate 2 can’t have a chance to start again. Why do Childcare workers need more than a first aid certificate and a police check; there are a lot of unemployed excellent parents that can’t do this job as the Australian Government has placed minimal child education training on this position to encourage over education and hidden unemployment figures. I too, am one of those hidden unemployment figures, as my husband earns too much for me to receive any help, but too little to pay our debt.

    Obviously you have been given the golden spoon in life; have never had to look for a job but have the arrogance to tell all unemployed they’re useless. Or, sadly you are a beautiful person who has had his head in the sand too long and does not see or hear the true reasons many of us try to give 110% only to have our resumes tossed to one side or exploited by the miserable low life thugs.

    Kind Regards,
    Kaye :)

    • Kaye- your post is very true and I agree with it. EXCEPT ONE PART.

      You said “[Hecker is] a beautiful person..” – but…have you seen his photograph? I wouldn’t call that pink mound of flesh beautiful!

  141. In my experience, which is extensive, interviewers are often:


    We live in a society where employers have got it into their heads that they are superior to the sector that works for them. Wrong. You are equals and it would be refreshing to find an employer who conducted the employment process with that in mind rather then pontificating about what the employee is doing wrong.

  142. A lot of upset people on here, but hey, you guys, why would you even want to debase yourselves by going after one of his poxy jobs. This article is clearly written to annoy, though he’s probably right telling you to network more. Seriously though most jobs are not worth going after, I am trying to make it on my own, tough but I don’t see the point of applying for jobs anymore, I loathe office work with every bone of my beingand am trying to use the opportunity to do something I really want to do, which costs me relatively little money, no point in existing otherwise.

    • “Seriously though most jobs are not worth going after,” says the person who doesn’t want to work.

      Is unemployment worth going after? I bet you’d say yes. Full-time at McDonald’s is more honorable than stating you don’t want to try for stupid reasons.

      You’ve been unemployed for how long? You loathe office work? I hate to break it to you (I’m lying when I say that), but you don’t get the privilege of “loathing” work when you have no way to pay your bills (on your own, not on the government teat and my tax money).

      It doesn’t matter what you like or don’t like when it comes to meeting your needs. If you really are “trying to make it on (your) own” you’ll work, and not squeal that you haven’t found your cake-walk job. Sounds like you’re lazy.

      • I hate break your bubble, but full time employment at Mc Donald’s doesn’t exist unless you are in management.

        “Is unemployment worth going after? I bet you’d say yes. Full-time at McDonald’s is more honorable than stating you don’t want to try for stupid reasons.”

  143. While I can understand some of your points, in general the tone of this article only works in a recession. Eventually the economy will recover and you will have to fight for potential employees. This idea that an employer can recruit the “perfect” employee to work for pennies on the dollar and expect expceptional performance has never worked. Poor moral = poor performance in any economy. So keep searching for the not higher than a bachelors degree and no more than 3 years experience to fill your pathetic positions but don’t be surprised when your company plummets because you took advantage of economy and overlooked potential star achievers that could have grown your company.

    • You said it Crispy and I couldn’t agree with you anymore. Most people wouldn’t apply for a job they did’t believe they wouldn’t be able to do.

    • I’ve seen this exact thing happen twice at two different institutions. The companys hired in a bunch of recent grads, paid them low wages, and in less than three months they were all gone. It was so bad at one particular firm that they had to beg people to stay in order to makeup for the mass exodus – an entire IT department left in one day (5 people).

  144. Also, what if you’re a pot smoker, not just regular tobacco, but marijuana? I think more and more, there’s a strong case to be made for learning how to run your own business. That way, you get to make all your own personnel deciderers, including whether or not you’re fit to hold down a job etc.

  145. The only chance of people in toodays world of getting a fair crack at things and I’m sorry to have to say it. is the hope of aworld war .After world changing wars every thing has to start a again from the knees up if u read history books on events after world wars the people seem to up to there neck in job opporttunatys .. Just saying peeps ..

  146. What if you smoke, have tats, pierced, AND you didn’t shave? Alas, the white-collar working world demands conformity. Healthy slave’s a happy slave!

  147. Some of his points are good, others are bad, and some are hypocritical:

    1: Seems valid enough.
    2: Definitely agree with this one, if people cannot even be professional and polite during a quick interview why would they expect to be hired.
    3: This goes too far. If piercings can be removed and tattoos covered up it really shouldn’t be an issue. Admittedly some environment this should be expected, but really he is just showing his personal bias. Old fart indeed.
    4: This generally makes sense. The key would be to be clean, presentable and hygienic.
    5: Makes sense, especially given the poor state of the economy. However, nothing is wrong in many instances with negotiating a salary.
    6: I don’t really have an opinion on this one, but it seems reasonable.
    7: This one is a half truth, with so many people out of work they often have to use the shotgun approach.
    8: This one is blatant snobbery and unprofessional (btw I hate smoking as well). I agree that lengthy smoke breaks are bull, but otherwise it should be a non issue. Considering that alcohol, and fatty foods are also making people unhealthy and unproductive should they be banned to?
    9: I agree with this one, jobs and professions often become obsolete due to innovation, robotics, better practices, etc.
    10: His point is valid but he seems hypocritical given the generally condescending and dismissive attitude he shows towards certain people in this paper. He admits inherent biases against smokers, people with piercings, and tells people they most likely deserved to be fired which is often bull considering just as many people are fired due to political games, manipulation, boss’s egos, being a whistleblower vs. deserving to be fired. Judging just by this article the author certainly does not represent the positive, upbeat model he recommends.
    1I: don’t think he is being insensitive about people with depression here, his advice seems reasonable.
    12: Valid. While some angry jerks get ahead, it is usually via behind the scenes manipulation vs. being overly hostile.
    13: Make sense, no need to comment.
    14: Same as above.
    15: Definitely agree with the idea, but extroverts easily dominate most industries and businesses, whether they know how to shut up or not. In my experience networking and sucking up to the boss always results in more rewards than being quiet and working harder.
    16: Good in theory, but telling he truth does not always result in being hired. People who can bs in interviews often have an advantage vs. people who tell the truth (studies show this). Additionally, the question he gives as an example is a classic trap question interviewers use (which frankly is just as deceptive). Remember that an interviewer is more likely to hire you if you tell him what he/she wants to hear vs. telling the truth. If that wasn’t the case, there would be less yes men and sycophants.
    17: Very good point, I am amazed how many managers and supervisors I have had who do not even know how to communicate effectively. I always wondered “who did they BLANK to get their job.”
    18: Also a good point.

  148. Sir, I do appreciate this article. I too agree with you that people do need to shave and get a haircut and stop wearing piercings to job interviews, and maybe quit smoking as these are unattractive habits. Better communication and interview skills are also a plus, though I struggle with these too, but am working on them.

    But, I have a few beefs with your article. You say to not be angry. Well how am I not supposed to get angry when it seems I can’t get job. I try to be the best I can be. I’m hardly some smoking tatooed loser who can’t take care of himself. I try to do what I can but I keep getting rejected. What the heck is wrong with me then eh. Also, I find it disturbing that you think depression makes someone unhireable. I am currently depressed, yet I try and put on my best face when I go for an interview, only to be rejected. So please tell me what is wrong with me so I can get a job.

    • Don’t show you are angry when being interviewed. As for being depressed, most of us without jobs are to some degree, don’t act depressed while being interviewed.These are all common sense answers, whould you hire someone who is acting depressed and angry when interviewing them?

      • Don’t be afraid to question the employers with good questions too. Always ask “why” when you’re unclear of something, not just “how.” You can tell when the employer wants a good worker or some yes-man they can screw around. Ask the right questions and the jerk employers won’t hire you because you’re capable of critical thinking. That in itself saves you a hassle.

        Don’t always assume all employers are jerks, but a good majority of them in today’s market want suckers who they can b.s.

      • Unfortunately, there is no way to turn depression on and off, so advising someone to not ‘act’ depressed makes no sense.

        • Yes you would have to sell your humanity wholesale to fulfill all requirements of how we should act to get or keep a crap job today, according to these HR dolts and corporate spokespeople flunkies.

        • There is no way to turn off depression but acting depressed is different! I’m guessing you have never been depressed. Most people who have no clue just stereotype it!

  149. …… #6 States that “You’re very overqualified.”

    and that “Realistically, I’m not going to hire someone with 10+ years of experience with a great deal of responsibility in their last job for an entry-level job. Entry-level jobs will be filled by entry-level people. All you do when you apply for these things is annoy the employer. I know you might be desperate.

    I just got turned down for a job that I was completely qualified for…. It was a entry-level network tech…. starting pay 27,900… All they were asking for was a 2-year degree in the field and 1-2 years experience….. not only did I not get the job or an interview; because I have a friend in human resources, I found out that no-one with a 2-year degree was even called for an interview, they threw all the 2-years in the garbage and only looked at the 4-years……. By the way this was for a community college that only offered 2-year degrees, and funny enough I even had the one in the field they was looking for from there own college. The job was given to a guy with a 4-year and 14 years xp in the field….. For an entry-level position only making 27,900 starting???….. I’M BUM FOUNDED

    • Maybe employers are more desperate than people seeking work? It reminds me of that George Carlin skit right before his death about owners wanting obedient workers. Any person of education, old school Americans knew this, don’t need a Bachelor’s unless the field required extensive training to be a doctor or lawyer. I have an AS and didn’t pursue BS because I saw the clowns who were graduating and picking up retail jobs that will NEVER get them anywhere. Worthy employers (a rarity) want a certain level of education, but more importantly want a level of passion few people have these days. College is niche market for Federal Government to make more money than ever.

      Stand up to logic like Mr Heckers and all these employers spew. Start leading by example and do your own thing.

      Mr. Heckers, as I’ve said, makes some good valid points and is successful financially. His assumption on medication and depressions is waaaay off. Looking at his weight, if he ended up with a stroke and could no longer work because he’s paralyzed, he’d be singing a different tune. Too big, too bust?? I think the not….Mr Hecker’s is a very heavy man. Am I wishing that on him, no. But life will show him otherwise if his bad eating habits catch up to him. Clear proof Mr. Heckers is as expendable as anyone here unemployed.

      If failure to question keeps anyone unemployed, then you’re one step closer to writing your own success if you trust yourself more than what society expects.

  150. Hey Mr. Heckers, you made valid points and so did many of these people commenting. Your intent was to constructively criticize people so they may be able to better their situation…

    Since you have many readers and many replies, why not address issues you didn’t point out? Please provide some more insight and respond to reader comments individually.

    You are trying to help people with your article, correct?

  151. This guy obviously doesn’t know a damn thing. Wake up and smell the coffee stupid. It seems people who are already employed are getting the jobs and people, God forbid your over 40 get the shaft. What an ignorant jerk. Your either over qualified, under or someplace in between. They judge you on the way you look, like seeing the gray in your hair and cross you off for being over the hill. I have loads of experience, but do they care?

    • Exactly. I’ve had interviews where they tell me, “With your previous work experience, you’re exactly the type of person we’re looking for!”. I put on my best side, am polite and friendly. Speak clearly when spoken to, am clean and presentable etc. etc… Yet I am still unemployed. I think you make a VERY valid point that, once you hit 40 (which I did last year), you become invisible to employers. I think it is a complete and utter cop-out to place all the blame on those seeking employment and next to none on employers. The “over-qualification” reason is beyond ridiculous. Who would they prefer, a person who knows next to nothing about a specific position or a person who knows exactly what the job entails and who, based on experience can even simplify or improve said job? I guess this garbage economy and over-screening by employers isn’t a HUGE factor nowadays. Utter nonsense. Then to state that you shouldn’t feel frustrated and depressed and should just “get over it”? Are you kidding me? WAY easier said than done! Tell that to someone who is on the verge of losing a house, car, running out of food by mid month and having to ration food just to make it ’til the end of the month when food stamps ($60 worth for the WHOLE month) get re-issued. Throw in mounting bills and the stigma of being on welfare or food stamps. I guess people in these situations should be happy and upbeat. Talk about being out of touch with common sense and reality…

  152. I have never read an article with such nonsense in my life. For one time I would like a guy like this to get knocked off his high horse and start from scratch and have to go in and do what we all have to do and live a life like others of us do and then think he can say all this stuff with a straight face. Resume’s DO MATTER and to get experience people need the OPPORTUNITY to get the experience. I’ve hit homeruns on interviews and still have not been considered for the job opportunity because the simple fact is there are so many other factors in getting hired now. All of these companies want “the IT factor” in candidates that have perfect credit histories, all of the experience in the world, all of the education in the world, and if the candidates don’t have that there are not very many of them that want to give people a single opportunistic chance much less hire them on for the position. The economy is bad I get it but as it is bad, everything else rises. Gas prices rise, grocery prices rise, etc. Even though all this other stuff rises companies still want to pay low wages and offer less chances for promotions, raises, or bonuses yet they expect you to work more hours at their discretion.

    This article simply tells us the message of “tough luck” from corporate greed in America.

  153. I was made redundant 10 years ago. Since then I have only managed to get contractual jobs lasting for a maximum period of 2 years. I changed my career path since the redundancy and managed to work my way up to management level through hard work and determination. My organisation faced cuts and as a result my contract was terminated. To add further insult I was replaced by a much younger person with no experience I had to train them for my role. Since then it has been virtually impossible for me to even get an interview. The job market has changed a lot I feel that certain factors are against me including my age I have just turned 40. During my twenties and thirties I found it quite easy to find work now it is a totally different ball game. It really annoys me when you get people saying that unemployed people are not trying hard enough. The person who wrote this article needs to get a reality check he may experience the pitfalls of unemployment one day. The harsh reality is that some applicants are inadvertently subjected to indirect discrimination potential employers are not going to admit that. In some cases jobs are filled before they are advertised. I do agree to somewhat that networking helps at times. It is not so much your experience that counts anymore but who you know. I strongly disagree with one point he made stating that overqualified people should not bother to apply for entry level jobs. In an ideal world we would love to have more freedom in choosing a particular job or career path but in this current climate it is not possible. We all have bills to pay and everyone has to start from somewhere.

  154. Too big to fail is this guys message to everybody. Sue him personally and not the company. Record your interviews because recordings of questions that relate to discrimination are very easy to win your case. If you’re in Canada contact legal aid. Might be able to bring down the company with this inconsiderate d— head!

  155. “1. You aren’t networking enough.”
    Friends don’t even call me back.

    “2. You interview poorly.”
    You’re hiring 1 person and interviewing 10 people, but “I’m” interviewing poorly?

    “3. You’re pierced.”
    You’re shallow.

    “4. You didn’t shave.”
    Can’t afford a new razor.

    “5. You’re asking too much money.”
    I don’t remember asking for money.

    “6. You’re very overqualified.”
    We’re applying for an entry-level position because there are no other positions. We need to pay bills too. Even if we are over-qualified.

    “7. You’re “shotgun” applying.”
    Realistically, this is the best chance at getting an interview.

    “8. You smoke.”
    What you’re doing is ILLEGAL.

    “9. Your job title has disappeared (or is endangered).”
    Then what are these job postings? And why are they being posted?

    “10. Your attitude stinks.”
    You’re blind.

    “11. You’re depressed.”
    You’re an insensitive prick, and what you’re doing is again ILLEGAL.

    “12. You’re angry.”
    No, I want a freaking job.

    “13. You didn’t follow the directions in the posting.”
    Why would ANYONE spend time writing a personal cover letter, but not know who to address it to? Why would ANYONE but a Doctor of Letters write 100s of these things, when it’s unclear that anyone is actually reading them? Maybe, just maybe, you’re expectations are too high.

    “14. You missed an important piece of the interviewing process.”
    You’re expectations are too high once again. You see, you’re not bank rolling this person yet. So for you to make inflexible demands on their time is literally pompous.

    “15. Ya yack too much!”
    You think too little.

    “16. You’re evasive.”
    Stop asking stupid self-depreciating questions.

    “17. You can’t communicate.”
    You don’t listen.

    “18. You’re unprepared.”

    • An excellent answer to a very arrogantly written, highly disheartening article. The author,clearly, has not had to struggle through this economy. Here’s hoping he gets a taste of his own medicine eventually.

      • Don’t even wish that on him, just look forward. Spend the energy where it counts improving your situation. Remember, all humans are expendable. Work through it, try new things and don’t let people’s success or failures get to you.

        I hate to admit it, but he makes a lot of good points. The arrogance (which we’re all guilty of) does comes off crude and he is wrong on things like getting a doctor to get treatment. Not only will you go in more depressed, you’ll be twitching or permanently smiling, increased confusion or having random fit spells from side-effects. Lack of attention span (aka “ADHD”) I’ve learned, is greatly focused when people pursue what they want to do and stop listening to what’s expected. Then the depressions starts to drift away. Amazing how it works! Unless you’re going to jump off a cliff, fight that depression without any drugs or alcohol and taking the spare time to learn what you’ve always wanted to or need to improve upon or both. My goodness, you’ll feel better having something to look forward to in the recovery process.

        My plans are small, but believe me, if and when my work grows (and it will) I will hire production help. I want to someday own my own guitar production facility and really strive to keep the old USA quality in the USA market. College degree or not…bring your passion and mind to my table. I don’t care if you’re unemployed or not, I like to see a good attitudes, honest and deeply driven passionate people.

        You’ll be fine. Many of you will be fine on here. Keep looking forward and working through your hardships.

    • HR “Big Guys”, and Managers think they rule this world.. You’re just so little, losing people they ll shine out of their job if they got hired..

      • I worked as an HR manager for 15 years and never had the mentality of this author. Sure some of his advice is general knowledge that all applicants should adhere to. However, the majority of the advice would not help you obtain a job even if you are the most qualified applicant. These hiring managers are so ignorant they don’t know what would actually be good for business. They have these preconceived notions about the overqualified unemployed overpaid candidate that they won’t even look at the benefit these potential candidates could offer. Instead they chose to hire the incompetent candidates in hopes that they can treat them like crap and actually expect them to stay around when the economy recovers.




    • Very well replied! I like the way you think. too bad smart people who refuse to sell out can’t get a decent job in crap-orate America.

  156. I’m 31 years old, went through rough times like everyone else. I went to college late at 28 for graphic design and graduated. In this economy, the most important thing to do is stay sharp and KEEP learning. Trust me, no one would hire me after college. Even while I had experience, graduated with a B+, and was among the best students skill-wise….etc, it was a bust. Believe me, I had the whole depression thing going with frustration, disappointment, medications, anger spells, family drama and more loooong before college. The author is right about a negative attitude making your chances worse. You have to pick yourself up and be positive in any situation. It’s not going to be easy. Positive attracts positive and negative attracts negative despite these opposites attract theories we all fall for in our social networking.

    Study what you can in your free time, just don’t spend your unemployed time watching sitcoms and reality TV shows. That stuff makes dwelling worse. People lose sight of real-life and they can no longer disconnect from from scripted TV personas because they are aspiring to Jersey Shore and all that counter-productive behavior in their depressive state. That’s a whole mess in itself with our modern ways.

    Am I employed by a company? Nope. My failures became my strengths so I decided to pursue my life-long passion as a wood worker doing a specific line of work. Don’t get me wrong, I don’t have my parents or anyone helping me emotionally or financially like many people have. This line of work is a long path. In fact, my family shunned BIG time for pursuing this. I learned a lot. I learned how to be calm, take constructive criticism with a grain of salt. I’m alive, happy, a lot to live for and very aware of what I have to do in life.

    It’s not easy, but life isn’t bad either. It’s how we measure ourselves and if we take failure as a success or not. Nobody gets success right the first time…NOBODY! That’s another big misconception. You have to fail, take criticism and learn how to improve yourself without telling those who can help you learn to go “F” themselves. When simple jobs in retail were telling me I’m over-qualified and bigger jobs told me not enough experience, I finally did my own thing. I’m still struggling, but I’m on my path towards something because I decided to buy my own work-from-home shop. That’s the important thing.

    Depression, dwelling, anger etc…..let it all go. The medications to treat these are dangerous and cause side-effects and profit pharmaceuticals. I don’t agree with visiting a doctor because they will dope you up on stuff when you really need to face whats bothering you head on. Face the world like you’ve already lost everything. Then the only way to climb is to move up, one day at a time. Would you rather be unemployed miserably or unemployed working towards something in the meantime? The key is finding positivity during the hard times. Failure at times can be fun if you’re learning from it as you go. Eventually, you’ll get on your path. If you have to let go of things you can no longer afford, then do so instead of worrying about what people may think of you. You’ll get back on track eventually. Don’t let anyone tell you otherwise.

    • JMB, I love your positive, can do attitude. I admit I have been very depressed having been unemployed over 15 months and fast approaching 40 the end of this week, feeling like I have nothing to show for my life. I feel like such a failure in my own mind. But reading your response was uplifting and inspiring. Thank you.

    • I like your post, JMB/ With a few exceptions of course…

      1. What if you are a manic depressive who cannot afford any kind of treatment? You are so right that those drugs are bad news, but I assure you it is not so simple to ‘let it all go’. Am I supposed to just accept that I cannot get any work because of my depression?
      2. “Study what you can in your free time, just don’t spend your unemployed time watching sitcoms and reality TV shows.” Good advice, except some of us are staring at the computer screen, not the television,. and we are doing this because we are trying to get work. Let’s not make assumptions on why someone is watching any kind of screen, be it TV or the computer.
      3. As so many others have pointed out, there is a massive age discrimination in all hirings. They don’t want experienced, intelligent people… they want cheap robots that will do whatever is asked of them without a whimper, that will accept peanuts for their efforts, and will NOT do anything to damage their egos, and most of all will kiss their ass even when any fool can see that — is about as dirty as they come.

      Again, not a bad post, but personally it reminds me of a reformed smoker… “Hey, if I can do it, anyone can!” I do not mean to disrespect, but that is about the silliest attitude I can think of. Unless you are my clone, you have no idea whether or not I can ‘do it’, nor can you say just because you got lucky means everyone will. I can tell you from VAST experience that some of us just are not going to get the luck you had. Yes, I know you worked hard and so on, but without that stroke of luck, all that work can count for absolutely nothing. Again, speaking from VAST experience here.

    • JMB
      Your post is fantastic. When you have free time you should become motivation speaker. I am not sarcastic, you summarised my exact thoughts in your post. I wish you very good luck, you have the right attitude and do well.

  157. Reading this persons article is irritating. Being unemployed/laid-off for the past 3 years, I have upgraded my resume and cover letter. Had it reviewed 4 times and continue pounding the pavement looking for part-time to full-time work and I am still not getting any offers nor interviews. Here in Ohio, they do a full background check which I’m sure they do in other states. I have no Criminal Record, been fingerprinted to work in Security, but the only thing that truly hurts me and I’m sure others is my credit history. Having worked since I was 14 and before being laid-off worked 2 jobs back to back while raising 5 children, I have been trying to pay off all our bills. What the author fails to say is that your credit score is how the employer sees the applicant. If your home was foreclosed on, a car repossed, and you are struggling to pay your bills, you as a perspective employee is labeled “A security risk because due to your debt you will steal from the company.” Does this sound fair? I find it frustrating and yes, it would make one quite angry because all anyone wants is a job so they can pay their bills.

    • Here’s the REAL reasons for being unemployed:

      -LAZY Human Resources people who no longer read resumes, and instead use a resume scanner to read and sort through resumes- the job that HR is paid to supposedly do.

      -CHEAP companies who are looking for slave labor and want to UNDERVALUE the employee’s worth and skills. That $30,000 job is a wage that most cannot live on, especially if living in a big city (in my case, Los Angeles) where the cost of living is high, if someone has a family to support, has to pay a mortgage or rent, etc. Hire someone at $30,000 to do that work but don’t expect loyalty…that person is looking for something better (and probably making copies of your trade secrets too)

      -GREEDY corporations who keep shipping jobs overseas. More profits for them so they can support their fat cat lifestyles.

    • I feel your frustration Laurie and I agree with you completely. The article this guy has written doesn’t make any sense and he has zero sight of the real world. Keep your head up, I’m in Ohio too with a degree and trying to push my way into contract jobs in the technology world just to gain experience and be hopeful since my job at the port of Cleveland has basically abruptly became undependable and I’m living unemployment check to unemployment check. Try to stay positive and stick to your gut feeling on what is right and what you need to do to survive. That’s all we can do.

    • I would have grabbed the persons head and slammed it against the desk…and then said, “there now you have a legitimate reason not to hire me”. And walked out.

  158. Thank you for the insightful article. I’ve been unemployed for about a year, doing nothing more than changing my resume, cover letter and interview approach. Now I’ve got a starting point on addressing other specific reasons why I’m not getting the job after the interviews.

  159. This article is utterly utterly pompous, arrogant and offensive. It seems that the author’s only purpose in writing this was to show what a smug, self-righteous bag if wind he truly is.

    • Wow, no wonder you are out of a job. I thought this article was very straightforward and honest. I suppose if you are a smoking, tattooed, lazy pos, this article may offend you because you don’t like hearing that your life decisions are keeping you from getting employed.

      • My, my, John — aren’t you a real piece of work. Someone criticizes the writer and you take it personally and then try to vilify them. Shame on you. You are precisely the kind of person I enjoy firing.

        • Thanks for coming to my defense, Jack. For the record, I am not unemployed, just underemployed. I also don’t have tattoos, I don’t smoke and I am far from a “lazy pos.” Furthermore, I haven’t made poor “life decisions,” and I have excellent skills that I repeatedly update. It’s the economy and job market, Jonny boy.

      • I disagree. I found it condescending, disheartening and rude. Are you John Heckers, the author of this article, by chance?

      • John,

        I think you have no compassion and you are too judgemental. Corporations are going too soon have to deal with an ugly mob scene.

        The corporate attitude toward human beings and their un-quenchable greed will be the start of the next worker bee uprising. OWS was nothing.

        Where do you get off, telling people to shave and not get a tattoo. Why? God forbid we should upset the corporate overlords vision of the world.

        Corporations buy the politicians and rig the game and when the economy crashes it is the worker bees fault. HOW DARE YOU!!!

        I hope the ruin the bankers and 1% have created comes back on them ten fold. Capitalism only works for the wealthy. The poor worker bee has been ruined. Now it is time to shuffle the deck….re-distribute and hit the reset button.

  160. I utterly despise this entire article. Typical pompous vitriol spouted by yet another useless “consultant” (leech). He who can’t, consults-case in point.

    Your point on overqualification is particularly ridiculous. Some of us have families to feed and bills to pay. The premise of your assertion that we unfortunate souls who are trapped in this vicious purgatory should all start our own business is totally untenable. If we had capital to do this, why would we even be in our respective situations?

    I hope you burn in hell you rotten POS virus of a human being. I cherish the day you have to feed your family on unemployment. It’s scum like you that keeps good, hard working and driven people out of good jobs whilst you feast on the fat of the land. You are a true enemy to the unemployed.

    • Overqualified and Unemployed

      POS … Point of Sale? j.k.

      I totally agree with you, as I…am overqualified as well. Just because I was a hard worker before the economy went to hell-o does not mean my family doesn’t deserve to eat! Also, bc of the economy I have to start a new career. I’m entirely coachable and a quick study and no, I wouldn’t just up and leave a company that helped me by giving me a job, I’d want to have a career there!

      I was pretty much fine with the article aside from that “point’ on being overqualified. If someone is willing to take a pay cut like that, they are willing to shine your shoes for free off the clock just to keep the job, and if you give them a chance, their longevity at their other employers shows LOYALTY…get a clue!!

      However, the point about not networking enough was a good one, a very good one, and is probably due to that person’s depression at being skilled and hardworking and consistently turned down during the beginning of their search. I shall make it a point to work harder at networking.

    • Hey, Nate, this list is unfortunately very true from an employer’s perspective.

      Employers have hundreds of job searchers to choose from and are now more likely to weed out and be picky. I work for a job placement agency and agree with what the writer wrote – it’s becoming the norm.

      Candidate can’t follow application instructions, e.g. no phone calls, apply in person, send a PowerPoint or video presentation – they won’t be considered.

      Candidate is overqualified? They need to state why they are willing to take a pay cut or fewer responsibilities. He is right – if a better opportunity came up, you’d probably leave. Would someone be hired as a burger flipper (nothing wrong with that!) if they were once a GM or CFO? Probably not. That’s what he was meaning.

      State how your skills and experiences match that which the employer is looking for – answer the “What’s in it for me?” question the employer is asking.

      If someone was really desperate for a job and they believed their being overqualified was an issue: Emphasize you will take less time to train (and willing to learn! They don’t want someone set in their ways but who are willing to grow); you’re looking for long-term fit (refer to loyalty at previous job); know how to get things done; and willing to do the job for the salary being offered.

      Offer to sign a contract saying you would stay for a year!

      It’s a dog-eat-dog world out there – you have to stay positive because positive things happen to positive people!

      • “Candidate is overqualified? They need to state why they are willing to take a pay cut or fewer responsibilities.”

        Umm… because there are no other jobs out there?

        It’s a dog-eat-dog world out there

        That’s because people make it that way. If humans were more compassionate and respectful of their fellow human beings, this stupid little saying would never have come up. Humans make things harder, and if certain ones would stop being so freaking greedy, perhaps the dog will go eat something else.

      • In 8 months I had 39 interviews – all “oopsy, overqualified/underqualified”. No, I did not do shortgun applications. Potential employers read my CV beforehand. Why waste time and my nerves?I asked several employment agencies,(non)employers for feedback – nobody pointed at any problems at interview, just “too much” for the job,mostly. So, I am stuck in limbo – redundancy for middle manager level. Can’t go down, cant’t go up.
        And no, thanks, no antidepressants!

  161. The writer of this article is so incredibly arrogant and out of touch that it’s unbelievable. I went back to school after owning my own retail business for several years. I started school at 46 in a medical field and finished 2 1/2 years ago at the top of my class and with a 97 on my registry. I’ve only worked prn and part time jobs since graduation (usually 2 and 3 at a time to survive) and absolutely cannot land a full time job despite working ANY length shift 8 to 16 hours, ANY shift, night or day, weekends, holidays, etc….I have applied for HUNDREDS and interviewed for many. I’ve tried working through people I know in places, people DO NOT want to get involved or help you in any way. I learned the hard way what my problem is.It’s MY AGE and there is no way around it. Interviewers even tell me that they are impressed with me when I interview and make comments such as “The other candidates haven’t even asked me that much about the job, they just sit there and shrug their shoulders and tell me they want the job. You’ve asked me all about the position, procedures and the operations of the facility and you’ve gotten great experience because you have worked prn and part time, usually 2 or 3 jobs at a time at a good variety of facilities.” Still, do I get the job? No. One of the shoulder shruggers does. Why? Managers in their late twenties and early to mid-thirties don’t hire people in their 50’s. For some reason, these people have judged older people as past being able to work, learn and function when we have some of the best work ethics and drives there can be! These managers are also the people that I look at and think, hmmm, when you hit 50 bud and the facility lays you off because you’re older and making too much money for their comfort (let’s hire a younger, less experienced person for so much less!) or they don’t want to pay toward your retirement….we’ll see if you have the ability to tough it out as I have for so long. I bet it’s going to be such a shocker to you that you won’t be able to handle it. Depression? You better believe I’m depressed. I NEVER felt old when I started college and when first trying to find a job in my field after graduation. I felt vibrant, productive and alive. It took 2 1/2 years of continual rejection on applications, interviews and supposed connections who failed to help to feel this way. Age is definitely not looked at as a plus in the job market. Do I believe that people with good connections get the jobs? You better beleive it, because I do see some of the worst employees in the world with full time jobs and benefits and I cannot think of any other reason that they should have the job other than the fact that they were connected to someone, somehow. If you think that knowledge plays much of a part in their getting hired, think on this. The first person and the only person from my class of ten to land a full time job before graduation asked in class, two weeks before graduation, “Which side is your liver on – your left or your right?” REALLY? This is in a medical field folks. Of course people are depressed when trying to obtain a job and all they want to do is work and work hard for someone or some organization. When you see what the HR people and managers hire and you “aren’t qualified for the job” or “you are overqualified” or my all time favorite “we hired another candidate because we felt she was the perfect fit, like a hand in a glove”, you’re depressed because you can never figure the mess out. Also, forget about being hired for most medical jobs now after graduation. Even for prn (i.e. work when and if we call you and you better come running)the facilities want you to have 2 to 5 years experience in that specialty. They no longer train or are willing to train. All of the managers that reject me for lack of experience in a particular modality all say the same thing. We don’t have the time to train anyone, we need someone to come in knowing how to do it all. REALLY? I guess you, Mr. or Mrs. Manager, knew how to do everything when you finished college and walked in for your interview. No one had to train you in anything, you were just that good. I am so amazed at what people who have the fortune to be working as managers actually say to interviewees and what they actually think. Just like the writer of this article, they are hopelessly out of touch.

    The people who always think they have the right answers for people searching for jobs have never been on the receiving (i.e. shaft) end of the job search. I also love the people that tell you “Oh, something will work out.” Aren’t they an encouragement? Your viewpoint will change entirely when you are on the job searching side.


      You hit the nail on the head when you said people companies will not train. That’s the bottom line. No time, expenses, or what ifs .

    • Reading this article reminded me of my on going quest. This is byfar the best example of truth in the current job market you either have to know someone or be related to someone in order to get into any place. Now people who hold this jobs can barely speak or write english but hold alot of this positions. I feel this is probaly the reason there were unions in place to prevent such bias from taking place in work force.

    • I completely agree with Happy. I am turning 60 in July and have not had any job offers. I can’t seem to fit into these categories they are trying to put people in. Most of the jobs I’m over qualified for. I also took a pharmacy tech course and became certified only to find out your have to volunteer for at least a year before anyone will hire you. Whatever happened to on the job training.

      Yup, these people that give out advice don’t know what is really happening out in the real world. There are not a lot of jobs out there.

    • While many of these should be obvious they unfortunately committed by all too many. However given that there are a large number of highly qualifed people who were thrown into this economic storm it might be a rather simplistic to assume all or even most cannot land job for these reasons only. Its way too complicated. Also as others have stated overqualified workers who were for many years performing well and dedicated got thrown with little warning into the mix. Networking is a big factor. But many did jobs that did not involve much outside interaction or allow the opportunities to network as much. But networkingwhile employed is easier than whe starting when unemployed. You need them more than they need to network with you and they know that. And even with rather tight network groups, given that some industries are cur throat and managers are under a microscope in this economy and not secure anymore, they are more reluctant to return once promised favors or even refer or recommend someone. And as others said yes many have gone back and reinvented their skills and education and certificates, etc. but are facing age discrimination. And many would disagree with but I agree with most employers thought process that overqualified and more experienced workers wont be loyal and will be pain in the neck unmanageable know it alls. That can be said about smug young whippersnappers but also would be a false generalization. How many young employees are trying constantly to up their coworkers or managers talking behind their back and just looking at these entry level jobscas a quick stepping stone. Afterall many have none or little to hold them back from taking big risks of jeopardising their job by pushing boundaries along with taking a leap of faith too quickly to try another job or put up with anything they feel is too much like work or cup of tea. No mortgage, no children no major responsibilities. The older overqualified worker obviously has responsibilities and committments usuakly to stay put longer and has come to terms with the realization of down scaling and yes maybe be loyal and gracious for the opportunity and job and will understand to be helpful yet respectful to not step on someones or managers toes. Andmany keep those jobs while looking for a supplemental weekend or second/ part time job. Some dont even need the healthcare benefits if their spouse is employed. Some are able to live with less as they may have smaller mortgages and other paid off debt. Assumptions many times are wrong and may passed up this entry level person on paper that could do so much more for the company later on then just an entry level job. They can sometimes even wind up saving the company with their knowledge and contacts. And while some may be better to strike out on their own, some may depending on current financial responsibilities or revious industry or position may not be as easy or possible.

      • Thank you for pointing out his oversimplified “answers”. Mr. Heckers has clearly not walked this walk.

    • I agree that by the sounds of things you should have been hired already. When I was a young manager I had no qualms about hiring. I managed an antique mall. I must say that hiring is no easy task and yet it’s also not that hard. It takes time and tact to properly gauge applicants. That aside I know my boss (the owner) preferred age over any other attribute, assuming they had the knowledge for selling antiques. This was not the case but if his sweeping generalization applies for other antique shops, and you are not opposed to changing careers yet again, perhaps give it a try? I had great fun but alas working for him for min wage didn’t cut it. I went into security for another terrible employer that reminds me of the article writer here. I finally decided to go to college and get a degree in a field I enjoyed, technology. Alas I’m also unable to find work and I’d attribute the majority of my failures to gain employment on my appearance, as all the interviewers must know that people with piercings and tattoos must all be out of jail. I have maintained a 96% average in both high school and college and out perform all my co-workers on a consistent basis. Interpretation? I’m arrogant. I don’t boast about these stats? Interpretation: I’m too shy.
      The interviewer really just wants to enjoy the interview process. The person they liked the most on a personal level they will hire.

    • There are many reasons why people want to change jobs, especially for women. The author’s assertion that recruiters will not look at experienced people for entry level jobs is quite depressing. If you have been out of the workforce with carer responsibilities, (as I have), or if you have had an illness and can no longer work in the same industry due the physical demands, you are probably going to need to change careers which will entail getting a lower level job. Not everyone operates in the ideal situation and can get the ideal job without compromising something. It is often just a matter of priorities. If recruiters could lose some of their prejudices and ask people why they REALLY want the job, instead of worrying about preconceived notions of whether they will stick with it if ‘better offer’ comes along, then they would learn more about the person and their real motivations.
      As for the fear of being second-guessed – are recruiters really looking for experienced, talented and capable people, or someone to boost their own self- esteem? There are a lot of assumptions in this list of points, most of them based on the insecurities of the employer. Perhaps they are the ones we should be helping.

  162. “Those who have a great attitude and have been able to overcome depression, anger and unrealistic expectations, will usually land in a hurry. Good luck!”…

    I most certainly love how the very end of this article describe me but yet i’v been looking for a job for a year now…

    • Yeah, basically this guy is saying “go f yourself!” Instead of good luck. Although I think he’s so dumb as to think he has original decent advice to offer and isn’t being a pri*k but is actually helping the world. Ha! Move on Heckerface, you have nothing new to add in the world you’re taking an active part of f’n over.

  163. John,

    What a sad article for so many. If I ever run into you I will kick you in the —-, or you end up working for me, you will be the first to go.

  164. The writer sounds like an arrogant and judgmental a-hole. Let’s hope karma doesn’t bit him or her in the butt if they get the boot from their job and have to re-entire the workforce at some point in their lives!

    • I just came across this article and before seeing the author’s name, my impression was that it was an inexperienced girl who was on a power trip and hadn’t been taught much in life yet.

      Shocked this came from some middle aged guy. Interesting indeed.

  165. If there is one job opening and ten people apply nine people will not get a job, even if they follow all of the advice in the article.

  166. What a load of crap. The reason you can’t get hired is because there are no jobs Plain and simple not because you did something wrong. You can have a top notch resume and cover letter if 300 people are applying for the same job your chances of landing the job are remote. There will always be someone with better qualifications and experience than you and someone who is ready to take less money.

    • Absolutly damn right. So many of these self important people say that “it’s you” for the reason that you can’t get a job. Although I do agree that being dressed for an interview and spit the gum out, this jerk puts all job seekers into that rabble pile. What an idiot.

    • Sometimes it’s not even that there are no jobs. I’ve noticed that some places will just hire friends. Even if they are depressed, have poor communications, have horrible anger problems, and are really unreasonable.

    • You might have as much luck buying a megabucks ticket every now and again.

      There are no jobs because employers are afraid to hire until the economy gets better which could be a long long …………… time.

  167. My husband has been unemployed for five years. I think all of the 18 reasons you listed are exactly correct. You hit the nail on the head.

    • I think you should get a divorce if you dislike your husband enough to agree with the author of this crappy article.

    • agreed. Neither you nor your husband are helping anything or anyone (sic. children).
      This is like a bad interview right there. Unless of coarse your husband is purposely trying to collect insurance/government funds and is lazy. In which case same result applies here. Seek marriage counseling or get a divorce. If I ever found out my significant other spoke like this about me instead of supporting me emotionally and trying to help me with my faults, I would drop her faster than the declining job market!

  168. John,

    Thank you for posting this. I realize this may not be answered, but I’m going to post here anyway.

    I am shaking my head at the competition and frustration today’s job seekers have to put up with. I prepped so much for my last interview; purchased a new jacket to go with my suit (black with white shirt), hardly no makeup- no jewelry- no cologne, researched the company and all those I knew would be there, studied and practiced interview questions and went to two workshops for interviewing and resumes provided by the last college I attended, visited employment office to seek help that allowed me to repair a way outdated resume, called prior to interview for a couple of questions, answered every single question with confidence and a smile during the interview, sent thank you notes to the entire panel that interviewed me — scratch that, I hand delivered the thank you notes! I then called to make sure they received them – they commented on the hand delivering of them (their thoughts about it was – pretty awesome!), oh, and during the interview, the dean said they would personally call me which ever way they chose, regardless if it were me or not. I walked out of that interview with a million dollar smile! No call, only a lousy thank you for applying email stating I didn’t get the job.

    I just turned in my resume for a similar position, once again. No call. One interview out of 20-30+ applications. I have to be honest with you. I would totally rock! for whoever feels they want to hire me. I just can’t get in the door. I can’t get anyone to look at my resume for the positions I fit into and feel I need to leave out that I even went to college on others. I’m sorry, but I’m no spring chicken – although, I don’t act my age either – job hunting and landing a job shouldn’t be this difficult. The only thing out of your article here that I feel applies to me is the depression part. I’m fine until I find out I don’t get the job (other than having to go through the trouble of tailoring my resume for each position) – who wouldn’t get depressed after so much preparation? And to see the jobs you post to just disappear with no calls? Do I even exist? Was my last interview a dream? I honestly have talent – going to such a waste because I can’t get my foot in the door.

    Extremely Frustrated,


    • Kimberly, it is nice to read someone who puts what I feel into words. Agree 100% with you. I must have applied to about 100-200 jobs by know… nothing. I have the education and the experience needed (at least 60 %) for the positions sought… but nothing. I would like to get into a bigger bank… not even an answer. I used to be good at what I did, but our company downsized… anyway, thanks again for expressing how you feel… you are not alone feeling that way.

      • I am amazed at how many people are in the same boat. i have been networking like crazy, with no positive results.

    • omg you sound like me this job hunt stuff should not be be difficult i mean what the heck next thing i know im homeless because jobs i applied for won’t call back or won’t even give me an interview… what exactly do i need to go through.. at first i thought it was because i didnt have a resume but now i have one and a whole year went by and im still looking for work…but i know all too well by experience how you feel to do all this prep work just to get an email notice that the position was filled…

      • I know how everyone feels here. You are wondering what you did and didn’t say at the interview. What’s wrong with me. I have worked over 39 years of my life and have a lot of experience, only to be made to feel like I now can’t do anything. I am hoping 2 years goes by fast so I can apply for my SSI.

        Hopefully I will be at least working part-time. Is that too much to ask for ?

        I think everyone is going through the same kinds of feelings. One day I feel really happy and motivated and the next day I feel hopeless despair.

  169. Mr. Heckers, you are nasty, unshaven pig. How can someone seriously take the advice of someone who lacks the self discipline to control something as simply as their own weight.

  170. I am black, and I want to make it clear that nobody I know thinks like what is portrayed here. This is just someone trolling. Please ignore it .

    • I agree. I find it a tasteless attempt to humor.

      “Why not include in the list traits such as you are disabled, you are a veteran, you got a C in Algebra, ”

      What I believe to be the most upsetting part of being unemployed is that I most likely have applied to non existing positions advertised only to show that the “situation” is not as bad as we may think after all.

      Incredible, “you are depressed”, unbelievable… delusional…

  171. Well, I recently became re-employed. I wanted to make a career change and was willing to accept lower pay. I found a job – not exactly what I was looking for, but a change nonetheless. Time was running out on my benefits. I’m in my mid 50’s.

    I really just want to comment on the tone of the advice given. I found it to be arrogant- the examples given were obvious, although the specific issues were probably more on the money. But if you have that kind of arrogance while interviewing a person, and I found that many in the position did, then you’re going to come up with these reasons even when the actual example was much more hidden than the obvious ones given here. I’m guessing that I fell into this group as do most people. You didn’t shave, you’ve got piercings. Come on. Duh! This is almost worthless.

  172. So violent, just shows I hit the right spot, because you apparently can’t handle the truth, oh holy whitey LOL. I guess Hecker was right about some people, some just can’t stand to hear it; the truth. And sorry but you haven’t been around real people if they are the same color as you with the same type of rights *rolls eyes* it’s obvious you haven’t been around many different ones and hopefully it’s not because you live in a place like… Colorado. Plus you lie like Mitt Nixon, it’s proven Obama IS a do sumthin Pres. and if you’re an IT guy (which I think you are because you display only hearsay sense and not knowledgeably written and common sense) the Pres has proven numbers behind him while Mitt IS a “do lies” all the time type of fella who has nuthin’ behind him but lying supporters. Watch Ed, that respected white man will tell ya; I’m sure you’re not too poor for that. I bet you were one of the people to re-elect Bush, HA! What a mistake that was huh? That’s why you are poor and have no job… or maybe it is your lack of sense LOL; combination of the two? Don’t worry am poor and jobless too. Did I mention he failed to find Osama, and lied about wanting to do so, but President Obama did and found his dirty a** fast? Why is that Mr. Stick in the mud Tom? Do nuthin’ Pres huh? You’re just mad and jealous is all, and I don’t blame you because you are a part of that group who looks really bad right now in this country and it’s all coming to light from centuries of badness (not in the MJ way).

    I bet you were steaming mad replying to me, so mad you couldn’t think right HAHA. If you are poor it doesn’t matter. You’ll still get more opportunities for the things you are after (more so then than now maybe, but nevertheless stills applies today in many areas of this country). Also you wouldn’t know it because why? Well, you just haven’t dealt with it being another color; specifically black and it is a lot worse for a black man unless he tries sports or raps, sings. Yes all black people aspire to do only those things – *rolls eyes*. And don’t be afraid to call me black, it’s not a bad thing. Whites were just known to make sure it was known as sumthin’ bad. I’m sure you have many in your family fearing their relatives marrying a black (prolly still use that word n*gg*r around your members as jokes) don’t lie because it’s true. It’s our word now! See how we turned it around on y’all? White kids callin’ themselves n*gg*h to be cool and some even saying n*gg*r because they were taught by parents; madder yet? Yes suck in the truth Tommy Uncle Tom, does it sting? You were fooled by those dumb “African Americans” who didn’t know their own worth and didn’t understand that everything and all colors (race and literal) are made from “BLACK.” Notice how black can make and contains all colors… why is this? Can whites make black or anything else for that matter? Nope not dominant, which is what your people feared and acted right away to fix that; take away rights etc. I bet you have another story that you were lied to from your ignorant parents who are… white. Whites are known to be big liars. Have you ever thought about that Tommy Tom? MR. Uncle? Them “Afro Americans” just wanted you to say and do whatever they want for pay back from years ago of the whitey bull.

    Don’t blame me, blame your people man. America and Americans (the actual people) are filling up with non-whites and you are seeing the backlash of your people; rightfully so because we all are black anyways. So I suggest you ditch your old school history books, those were filled with half truths and lies as well. Get some real knowledge from people you don’t hang around and grown up books. Angry people always have a problem with reality, and you Tom my friend have displayed your true colors.

    Good day my friend ;)

    Just hope you aren’t as big as a bigot and liar as Romney, for your kids, and for humanity’s sake. We don’t need another white liar; we have too many. Good luck on everything you do. Oh and if I can’t call you friend, may I call you pal? HA!

    P.S. Next time come better with it… you just sounded angry. Have some proof and don’t do like Mitt Nixon… spew sh!t out your a$$ that comes up through your mouth; sh!t stinks and doesn’t talk.

    • Please shut up, your ignorance is showing. We are not white and black…we are HUMAN…we are all in a very hard time right now, and the last thing I want to hear is this. You want to help…then help ALL people in despair, poor, homeless,and jobless…NOT JUST BLACK!!!

      And In today’s world, it doesn’t matter if your white, black, old, young, healthy, disabled, they’ll find a way to &%$ with you!!

      Stop trying to pigeon-hold people in a white stereotype. Stop being angry and racist!! Just start being supportive and caring of EVERYONE!!!

  173. I especially like the tattoo reason. When you read blogs these tattoo folks go around bragging that they have every right to get tattoos and that people like the article writer OWE them a job. These tattoo folk try to act like tattoos are not appearance but bigotry when denied jobs. They are completely out of it and wrong. Mr. Employer has his rights too. He has the right to make as much money as he can and to run a business the way he sees as professional. As an owner myself , tattoo people will cost me money in my line of business. As a customer I find tattoos ugly and unprofessional. That is my right to feel that way and my right to spend my money as I want whether I am hiring people or buying something

    • Wow. Alright. So, if we’re talking about appearances (a hot topic when it comes to discrimination) and people’s rights, why don’t we just replace the “tattoo folk” portions of this with something basic like “people that dye their hair blonde.” After all, that’s a body modification. We could go with ” people who get nose jobs” or to be base “people that are fat/too skinny,” but basics are fine here. Let’s observe.

      Revised quote: “When you read blogs these [people that dye their hair blonde] go around bragging that they have every right to [dye their hair blonde] and that people like the article writer OWE them a job. These [people that dye their hair blonde] try to act like [blonde hair is] not appearance but bigotry when denied jobs. They are completely out of it and wrong. Mr. Employer has his rights too. He has the right to make as much money as he can and to run a business the way he sees as professional. As an owner myself , [people that dye their hair blonde] will cost me money in my line of business. As a customer I find [blonde hair] ugly and unprofessional. That is my right to feel that way and my right to spend my money as I want whether I am hiring people or buying something”

      Interesting how discrimination laws haven’t really kept up with the times. Completely appalling. Welcome to 2013, people. Wake up or go back to year 19-long gone.

      • It is not discrimination. You chose to ink your body. You guys go around bragging all the time about your individuality and can not accept the fact that others have their individuality too. What a joke. It is appearance. I would not hire someone with ripped jeans either and yes even a mohawk, now that you talk about hair. Sorry , life does not change because you tattoo people follow the Hollywood crowd.

          • Appearance matters. I am sorry these folks were so myopic and impulsive not realizing the consequences of their self mutilation. There are prices to pay. Life goes on. The bold individuality you had with ITS MY BODY crap, looking more and more like… Uh Oh , What the hell did I do to my body… lmao

  174. Tom, you also reenacted the white’s reaction in the Brown eyed Blue eyed study, Thanks ;) good job Tommy, Pal? LOL

    • “Black Attack”: No thanks needed but all the same accepted….”Pal.” Your screen name pretty much tells everyone what your mindset is: Woe is me. Sorry friend, that crap doesn’t fly with me. I’ve never been racist, have no problems with someones orientation etc, (socially liberal) to each his or her own, but I don’t buy into the whole reverse-racism thought and belief you are trying to sell. Crap is crap and it all smells the same no matter who it comes from, and you are dropping a lot of it. I’ve said all I am gonna say on this matter. To h*ll with your “Brown eyed Blue eyed study.” We don’t need a study for what you are trying to sell.

  175. You know, I get so tired of African-Americans using their race as a plight! You say “white is privilege.” B#$%&!@! Tell that to the millions of poor whites in America. Tell that to those poor whites that are underemployed. Why do you automatically attribute the problem to race? That’s ridiculous on its face. It’s a class problem friend, not a race problem.

    Moreover, what does voting for Obama have to do with it? Bush put us in the poor house (Clinton knifed America with NAFTA) and Obama is a “do nothing” president! What’s your point? Supporting Obama has got us nothing, and it will be another four years of nothing. Poor whites-poor blacks-all Obama could speak about was “middle-class, middle-class.” There was no talk about or of “poor” anyone!

    And “white privilege”? As a white man, I can’t get help with furthering my education unless I personally pay for it myself, and through the ass I might add. Yet, my present income isn’t enough to amount to squat! However, if I was American Indian, African-American, or ever an illegal alien (such as the millions of Mexicans that Bush and Obama has made us pay for with our tax dollars) I could get that education for pretty close to free! Don’t believe me? Try signing up as a white, then a black or an illegal immigrant. You will be amazed at the results. (And yes, I did the experiment.) Would you consider this right? When considering your take on “white privilege,” you probably see nothing wrong with this blatant prejudice and hypocrisy.

    Is it any wonder that America is a divided nation? The government doesn’t do right by those that employ them because they don’t believe that we actually do so anymore; millions of Americans are disenfranchised by that same government; the people do their share of dividing by bringing race into the mix as a plight that must be paid for and something we should forever have to contend as per past occurrences; and many voters use their vote as some kind of weapon to fire back at others whom they think is “privileged” or otherwise better off, without ever understanding what they are voting for or against! But yeah, let’s support a candidate simply because he “looks like me.” That makes a lot of sense, right? So how much better off are you for that support after four years? I bet no better than any of the rest of us. But then…we are the “privileged” poor, right? You think it’s racial prejudice, but the truth is… it’s class prejudice.

    • You’re right, it is about class and less so about race per se but an uneducated white man still has it easier getting a job, period, than an educated Black or Latino and God forbid a Native American. I’m not talking about the SAME job, a “higher education required” job, I’m talking about any job at all that pays the bills so you don’t have to go on Food Stamps or welfare or General Assistance. Employers would still rather see white skin in the interview than brown, educated or not. A black PhD holder is still way more likely to be unemployed and get constantly turned down if he/she does make it to job interviews than a white high school graduate or even high school dropout; the white high-schooler will more likely have a job at Wal-Mart or a grocery store stocking shelves than the black college graduate. There are many stories like that all over the internet.

      But you’re right, it is about class; the educated black or Latino will be sitting up in the waiting room at the Food Stamp office right alongside the white high-school-dropout.

  176. Also excuse the grammatical and spelling errors. On my jacked up phone because I can’t afford a new one and my excitement responding to this post took over. If I had a job I’d make an effort to write a lil’ more efficiently :D! Honestly though, I hope people considered what I said. Blacks have had to deal with this till this day, and you wonder why we would vote for President Obama? At least he understands and supports those who weren’t born white. White equals privileged and even y’all know this, and will take every chance to keep it that way. This is why we depend on God because it’s obvious that people of a certain nature don’t do right by others. To us, President Obama is God sent to save us like people like yourselves: selfish, ignorant, and wanting to keep those of another color down. Just like education was kept from us, the same has happened with jobs. But what do we always do with God behind us? Prevail! Always flesh knows and can’t do anything. Hecker is of fatty flesh, he definitely can’t do anything except for talk. Even his resume displays that. :/

  177. Wow I think the author well, he’s white so not his fault… or is it? But a lot you would hate to be black and wouldn’t be able to handle it. What you are experiencing now are what blacks have gone through since forever. My Dad had a law degree and guess what, back then they discriminated against blacks and the law, made it impossible for employeement. Nothing new… but now everybody wants to whine and complain, now you know what it feels like to be black. And to heckler or whatever the name is, you have points, but remember your points display the very discrimination people or color face all the time. So you admit to telling it like it is but this also includes your racism.

    • Charles Schlerner

      I agree with you. I am a white male and I admire the amount of resilience in the black community. I wish my wish-washy culture would have instilled such values in me. Now, I realize the world is unfair and I am having a mental breakdown. At least some people (your family at least) instilled realistic values in their offspring.

    • Ha! I thought I was the only person who had this reaction reading this (frankly ridiculous) article. This is absolutely nothing new for Black folk.

      The “Life is Fair” mantra of working hard, paying your dues and just *knowing* that everything will work out because that’s the way of the universe is just not something Black people really rely on, because historically it simply has not been true for us. That’s just a fact. And I come from a fairly well off family, one with small business owners, PhDs, doctors, lawyers and professors going back at least 4 generations. It didn’t matter. My grandfather had a doctorate in engineering and was only ever hired for janitorial positions until the 70s when he eventually got a job with the DoD (after 2 decades with his advanced degree). Other family members lost their property and as a result their business simply because they were Black back in the day. So what do you think they taught their kids? Work had all you want … it’s no guarantee and to expect that it is is sheer stupidity. In (the harsh) reality, life is less than fair for you.

      Many of the the Black people I know have frankly been laughing at all this panic along the lines of: “But I did everything RIGHT and I still lost my home/job/lifesavings.” Welcome to the club. The “American Dream” has ALWAYS been a bit of a myth. It has helped give me mental stamina though … so many people are downright distraught because this “losing” things is so new to them. Get over it & keep moving. This is not new AT ALL.

  178. The reasons why qualified people are not entering their desired positions is the subjectivity of hiring managers and HR personnel. Why should some unqualified jerk-off in HR decide who is hired or not? Why is work experience considered more important than academic performance? Some brain-dead moron doing fucl( all for a few years is more valuable than someone with intellectual capacity who made the effort of completing an accredited degree? These types of infuriating occurrences harm both the employee as well as the hiring organization.

    • Funny you should mention this topic.

      Just the other day I told my fiancee the same thing. Using myself as an example, if I have to go through HR to get a job, I’ll never here back from the company. However, let me interview with the manager of the department needing employees or better yet, the owner of the company, I will get a job every time.

      This scenario has never failed me.

  179. So much for constructive input, Marc.

    To “Defeated”: Your age and situation suggests a career change? You probably listened to a recruiter tell you that an adv degree would help your transition? I ask, because that’s what happened to me.

    Fortunately I got pregnant and put school and career on hold which saved me from doing exactly what you did; encumber a huge student loan debt. May I suggest an internship? You are never really too old for one, and it might get you a foot in the door and out of the catch 22 of simultaneously being over and under qualified at the same time. Also, don’t be afraid to LIE on your resume. Take the master’s degree off when applying for $20K-$40K jobs, it just scares them.

  180. My bachelor degree of chemical engineering is useless. I have apllied and attended many interviews and still unemployed until now. I really dissapointed with my self.

    • I feel the same way. I have an electrical engineering and computer science degree and although I’m not unemployed I am underemployed and it is very frustrating. I’m stuck making under $30K/year with two engineering degrees…

      • How is that here in Houston with that chemical engineering job, you should be able to get a job in any of these oil companies.

    • I know of someone with a Bachelor’s in Chemical Engineering, from Yale no less, who’s currently a high school math teacher in New Haven’s public schools. So don’t feel so bad; of course, the guy I’m talking about is a minority so for him, “public school teaching” was probably all he was going to be able to GET with a degree from even Yale.

        • My point is that it’s still an Ivy which is way more prestigious than the State schools that *usually* crank out public school teachers. The Yalie should be on the streets or back home with Mom and Dad if they’re still alive – or stocking shelves at Wal-Mart which is where most of the ones with the Liberal Studies majors tend to be these days if they’re not “legacies” with rich parents with deep pockets and multi-million dollar businesses…? That’s what people seem to think these days – that an Ivy league degree means nothing if you’re a minority. Go flip burgers if McDonald’s will have you, or go live in Mom and Dad’s basement looking for just ANYTHING. There are also Princetonians who can’t find jobs at all, and would KILL if Wal-Mart would let them stock the shelves, no matter what their major was. America is really in a sorry state when even its top universities mean nothing to the job market.

          • As a white male, I agree with this completely. I have a bunch of conceited, snobby, privileged white relatives in the South who make fun of extremely hard working minorities who have degrees down in The South. I almost wanted to smack the living hell out of them because of their ignorance and innate racist mind-sets. It is the privileged over-class of white America that is ruining this country.

            Hopefully, the common white people like me will wise up and get rid of their racist nonsense and start working WITH minorities as people who also have experienced oppression by the over-class to put their pink-skinned butts out of power.

  181. I’m 39 and I’ve been unemployed for 2 years. I have a BS and a shiny new MS in Project Management. I’ve been told to my face that I don’t have enough experience for a entry level job in that field. Since when does an ENTRY LEVEL job mean having 3~5 years experience ? Well, okay. I don’t mind starting at a lower position and working my way up. Then I was told that I was OVER QUALIFIED for a lower position job at 23 other opportunities. (No, I’m not making that number up.) This went on for so long, that now I’m being told that I flatly WILL NOT be hired because I’ve been out of work for so long (over 6 months is an awful short amount of time.) Now I have tens of thousands of dollars of school debt that I can’t pay that only goes up by leaps and bounds when I apply for each forbearance. I now owe 40% extra on the principal that I’ll never pay because I cant get hired. What the hell am I supposed to do ? I’ve applied for jobs from my field all the way down to burger flipping. The low jobs wont touch me because they say I will leave ,the high jobs wont even look at my application because of the amount of time I’ve been unemployed. Yet, it is the stupid hire practices that they use that make this a problem in the first place. Unemployment could be down if hiring managers would just stop being stupid.

    • Totally agree with you MATE the stupids are running many 0f the Job Networks they reward retards with ongoing work and their employment agency is the PUB employment agency where some of the tradies get their workers from because they aren’t trained in how to find workers so they just put the word around in the pub to get their staff… know this from being at work.

      Here in Australia we have job ads asking for workers who have experience working on engines/Cars etc but they stipulate that you don’t need to be qualified to get the job? When the law of the land says you do have to be qualified to do that work… just another case of the retard criminals wanting to tell everyone else what to do and bugger everyone’s lives up with more of their B.S. – I kid you not!

      Have a nice day.

    • Absolutely correct, my friend. My husband has been out of work about a year. They want him at “entry level” pay of less than 10 dollars an hour but want to bag him because he is experienced.

      I see tattooed, dirty looking people who cannot string 2 words together working every day. They have **** attitudes and treat others like dog poo. Yet, they still have jobs and good, decent folks do not.

      Corporate America sucks.

  182. I just had to comment on this article. There are so many flaws in the line of thinking within this article that it is repugnant!

    1. All of what you mentioned right here is networking. What else should a person do for the menial jobs that are being offered? I’m sorry, but if you are offering a $10-12 an hour job, do not expect those applying to act as though they are applying for a $50,000 a year job. Our time is worth something as well and we don‘t like to have it wasted!

    2. I am 46, and I never had failed an interview. However, after this lay-off, I have failed three for the first time in my life. I am a solid interviewee with more than 10 years in sales. I know how to interview! I dress for the part, I study the company beforehand, and everything seems to go smooth. Yet… three failed interviews for jobs of which I was qualified. Whom did they hire? The people who showed up dirty, unshaven, and lackluster at best! And yes, I saw the other candidates.

    3. I think anyone dumb enough to open holes up all over their face and paint himself or herself like a billboard should not be taken seriously at all. On this one, you and I are in agreement!

    4. Once again…we are in agreement!

    5. Your comment of, “We interviewed one person for a $30K job who had been making $70K. Frankly, we’re not going to hire someone with that huge of a salary gap. It isn’t the problem of employers you have lived beyond your means.” If this person was living on the $70K to start with, how can that be contrived to mean he or she had lived beyond their means? It isn’t their problem that you wish to hire people at sub-wages to get off cheap. Moreover, the “great reset” you speak of is the reason you have the people showing up to your interviews the way they are! The “great reset” you speak of is simple jargon for “we want you cheap.”

    6. Maybe these folks want to change careers. Not giving them a chance is also not finding out just how good a part of your business they could be. Nevertheless, yeah, keep hiring those who wish to come to work to loaf!

    7. I agree with you on this one as well.

    8. I don’t smoke, but this one is a load of B.S. and cutting very close to discrimination. Smokers do not get sick any more often than non-smokers do. (A point that has been proven over and over.) If you are paying a low wage, you are going to get employees who take excessive breaks regardless of smoking or anything else. I would imagine that many of your employees would find some of the things that you do “filthy” as well. (Like some of the things you are stating with this article.)

    9. Null.

    10. So should these prospective employees show up to yet another interview acting as though the world is a wonderful place when you are trying to hire them for well under a livable wage?

    11. Null.

    12. Agreed.

    13. Agreed.

    14. Null.

    15. Agreed.

    16. No stupid questions will get you no stupid answers!

    17. I believe that most employers simply want someone to work and keep their mouths shut, regardless of whatever is going on. You wouldn’t want someone who can communicate too well would you? They may argue you under the table on matters pertaining to the job. Watch what you wish for!

    18. One of your, “highly prepared candidates” would get grilled at most places I suspect. You are hiring people who are “Yes” men and women. As far as “unrealistic expectations,” I think that in 90% of the cases, it is the employer who is hiring for too low a wage who more fit’s the description of “unrealistic.” I.E. Cheap wages for high output employees.

    Right now, the ball is in the employers’ court; they know it, and many are abusing it! However, when the worm turns (and it will) all of those folks who were out there looking for work and didn’t get a fair chance because of an employers arbitrary rules and bigheadedness?–they will remember! Don’t believe me? Just look on the internet to find that I’m right.

    Employers and HR personnel (an position invented for lazy employers) are asking more and more of people that are out looking for gainful employment and much of this is B.S. They ask that these people jump through their arbitrary hoops and act as though the $10.00 an hour job they are applying for is something special. Sorry, but it isn’t! Before you know it, employers will be asking for blood oaths in order to get a sub-wage job! Additionally, just because someone is fired from a job, doesn’t mean that they are a bad person and wouldn’t make a good employee, just as being laid off doesn’t either. After all, there are plenty of dishonest employers out there. All one has to do is look at what many employers are trying to get for the cheapest wage possible. That in itself tells the story.

    • Addendum: I would add as well that, as you are discriminating against those that smoke as being unemployable, that I should point out something else. From your picture I can tell that you are morbidly overweight. So, going by your own guidelines, we should derive that you are addicted to food. Shouldn’t that make you unemployable? I should think so.

    • I’d just like to say your post was well thought out, but perhapse i could comment on your tattoo stance, while i myself do not have any piercings or tattoo’s, it is a socially acceptable form of art, one that employs hundred’s of thousands of people everywhere. How can you honestly believe that not hiring a smoker borders on discrimination while not hiring on tattoo’s and piercings isn’t??? smoking is a choice, just like tattoo’s, by creating and/or enforcing the social viewpoint that “tattoo’s are disgusting” while that may be your opinion, it is not a valid reason to not hire someone. I ran a small renovation business for awhile, and can honestly tell you the guy i hired as my on site supervisor was inked up on over 80% of his body (basically anywhere the skin was senstive he was not tattoo’d, eyelids, armpits etc) he was my most valuable employee for the simple fact that when he dealt with customers, he was respectful and took pride in his job…tattoo’s or no tattoo’s that was the kind of person i wanted because as a small business i needed to compete not just on price but quality of customer service and of the work done…big companies do not however. In closing, I really hope you change your opinion on this subject just for yourself…I think if you actually learned more about the subject rather then continuing in your preconception you would benefit from it greatly.

  183. I hate it when people judge your employability on whether or not your have piercings/tattos. I’m sorry, but having a few extra holes in my body does not make me any less able to do the job, and it’s not up to anyone else to judge me because I’ve chosen to do this to my own body. If I have the skills and qualifications, whats the problem? And I don’t believe any of that nonsense about it making the person less approachable or professional – that’s down to attitude. Who even decides what is deemed as professional? If you get the job done and you do it well, it shouldn’t matter what you look like. Having piercings doesn’t automatically make me inept. If anything, it shows your closed mindedness and discrimination.

    • It is up to people to judge you when money is at stake. You are completely wrong. Whether you like it or not you permanantly altered your appearance. You would not see someone wearing ripped jeans in a Wall Street position. You made your bed now lie in it. Sorry to be so gruff, but you people think that hard working people OWE you a job even at the cost of losing money in their business. Suck it up. You chose to defile your body and now live with the consequences. These hirers have their freedoms too.

  184. John Heckers tells the truth! Sometimes the truth hurts. With that said, many job seekers have not taken an unvarnished look at themselves in the way employers view applicants. Sit up and listen to good advice. More job seekers would be successful if they thought of themselves as a cell phone. The cell phone market is so competative that companies (YOU) promote themselves with their features/benefits that set them apart. Help yourself: identify your skills, practice your elevator speech, take a shower, take out piercings, cover tats, polish your look, polish your resume. THEN, hit the ground running. Good Luck!

    • So, you are suggesting that I walk in, smile big, sit still, and agree to whatever the slavedriv….excuse me, the employer says. Maybe I should just start the interview by walking in and planting a huge wet kiss on his bloated butt.

      If you put out an ad seeking employees, maybe you should remember that YOU are seeking ME. If I walk into your business and ask about opportunities, that is ME seeking YOU. When the latter is the case, feel free to be an arrogant, self-absorbed ass. But when you are announcing YOU need help, don’t wait for me to show up and then start trying to make me feel like YOU are doing ME a favor.

      Just sayin…

    • Anne must be his wife, or him in disguise. We’re not buying this “Anne” thing Heckers. P.S. Everyone should stop posting on this thread, because this jacka*$$ doesn’t deserve to get any money from the Ads on his side bar. So don’t be tempted to click on them!!!!!!!

  185. Feed the wolves, or the wolves will feed off you. I wouldn’t work for the **** who wrote this, and I hope he stares down the barrel of the unemployed that he turned down. America is doomed and the streets will be drowned in blood. The elite will get the population reduction they want.

  186. As Guyko suggests, check out this guy’s resume (at The only real job he’s held was with ATT Wireless back in the mid-1990s (and he was there for only less than 2 years)! The rest of the time he’s been a consultant, mainly through his own small companies (the current one consists of just himself, his wife and one actual employee). He’s now a “coach” for whatever ails you – career, spirit, life, even relationships!

    Given the condensing tone of this article, I’d say he’s a mighty frustrated consultant – he wants to be a “Strategic Executive Coach” (as he lists himself above), teaching Fortune 500 CEOs how to succeed, but instead he’s dealing with low-level grunts who are unemployed and hawking self-published books.

    Oh, and when you read this John (and I’m sure you will), here’s a free piece of job advice: Hire a website developer to revamp that website of yours – nothing screams “don’t hire me” as much as a vintage 1990’s website!

  187. Take a look at this guys resume and you’ll see how underqualified he is to to write this piece. Most HR managers and consultants have this same exploitative atitude toward employees. Submit to abuse until we don’t want you anymore then your terminated.

  188. These kinds of articles tend to be written by some right-wing arsehole who thinks you should all network network network and bend over and assume the position for the man. He looks rather overfed doesn’t he? Believe in yourself!

  189. Horsecrap. I’m unemployed because some people were born with a silver spoon in their mouths and get all the networking connections and I get nothing. How the he!! do you network if you don’t have a natural “in” with people? You either know them or you don’t, and obviously grubbing your way into someone’s good graces because of their connections is going to get you nowhere.

    Graduate from college with a good GPA and a relevant internship, I need a job that pays the bills or I’ll default on my loans and then I might as well kill myself as my credit will be ruined forever and bad credit will then further disqualify me for work. I’m too overqualified for low-level work (no food service for me, and not because I’m unwilling to, but because of what you suggested, that they won’t trust me to stick around), and not qualified enough apparently to merit even consideration for an interview at any entry-level Bachelor’s-degree-asking position, even if I meet many of the qualifications on paper.

    I think I’ll just change my LinkedIn page to tell all employers and everyone with a job to go fu** themselves and burn in he!! for having what I don’t have.

    • I feel your frustration 100 percent! I’ve been on as many an twelve interviews over the last five months and no one has hired me yet. I’ve even come as close as having a second interview and they still hired someone else. Some of the jobs the hired someone else reposted the same position two to three months later. 70 percent of the companies even told me that I was overqualified and one also said the reason they didn’t hire me is because they feel I may get bored with them and quit due to all my skills! I’m ready to tell those jobs to f**k themselves also because I’m very frustrated.

  190. These are definitely good reasons especially for the ones who apply to jobs when they are unqualified. It’s stupid to do.

  191. I found this article to be offensive. I never thought I would be unemployed. How would you feel if you can’t support your family? If you were not depressed then you’re not human. I hope to God you never lose your job – with that crappy attitude you will never land a job.

    • The tone of the above article does seem just a tad too insensitive. These economic times are often compared with the days of the Great Depression of the 1930’s. However, as my father, who lived through those days, would say, “During the Depression people looked out for one another. That attitude is all gone. People now are out for themselves.” This now holds true for many politicians as well as hiring managers, bosses, etc., etc. They care about their own self-aggrandizement, and to heck with the next guy. If we are to continue functioning as a nation, we all need to work together. It’s not happening.

      • Roseann, yes, people did look out for each other. I can see a BIG difference between applying for jobs (since 2007) and applying for jobs in the 1990s. You can’t walk into ANY temporary agency UNLESS you have “recent work experience”. So, if you’d been “networking” and may be you do “interview poorly” and may be are “overqualified” for the job, you still can’t get help from the temporary agencies since they don’t count “going to school full-time earning a degree” a “job”. I suggest the second you become unemployed, go to a temp agency. Don’t wait 6 months, if you do, you waited too long. And it is about how you know. If you don’t know enough people as Ogodei-Khan says – you get nothing. It is just not like it used to be. It’s not very fair, but no one said life would be very fair. I liked it when you had to go into a company and drive there and apply with a paper application. Now, it’s some computer that “reads” your resume and you MAY get a silly standard email from SOMEONE (you are never given any name, or direct line) behind a locked closed door in Human Resources and more than likely – this “Someone” in “Human Resources” is 1,200 miles away from you! How is that HUMAN RESOURCES? You stay behind closed doors and send out standardized emails to applicants that say “You passed the applicant process and we wan’t you to come in” or “Sorry you didn’t pass and we picked another candidate” Looking for employment now has become very robotic like and non-human and I don’t like it very much. But for the person that does not know a lot of people, or does not know the RIGHT people, it makes it nearly impossible to get a job!

  192. Your inability to comprehend may be keeping you from getting a job. What he said is that when he posted an entry-level position paying $30,000 a year, some folks who interviewed wanted the position, but expressed dissatisfactiuon with the pay because they made more than twice that a few years ago. These people expressed they either wanted more money than the company planned to offer, or they wanted to barter perks (like primo schedule flexibility, extra vacation, or fewer job responsibilities) in exchange for their acceptance of lower pay. For every arrogant person who makes such demands, there is someone else who is willing to accept the position, responsibilities, and pay as is, and would be happy to do so.

  193. Let’s hope all the new consultants and the self employed folk don’t over saturate the market! The reality: New business creates new jobs, consumer confidence encourages growth with out these we’re doomed. 

  194. This guy sounds like a pompous windsock.  The ‘truth’ hurts?  You folks don’t know the truth, let alone handle it.  I wouldn’t work for this guy, period.  He criticizes all these poor schlubs that come to interview; one question – who asked those candidates for the interview?  right, Heckers.  Shows what keen ability he has to quantify candidates.  Get real. 

  195. The reality is the truth hurts. I did not take what you said to heart, nor did I take it personally. You gave some really great ideas. I will take those concepts that apply to me and modify my approach. Sometimes being blunt is the only way to do things. Thank you for your input.

  196. #6. It seems like you know much or at least you think you do. I read Sharon’s post and Sukiyakieangie post. And saying someone deserved to be fired is not always true. How do you know for sure what happened with other people on their job? Where you there? No. I wouldn’t jump to conclusion so much about other people applying to a job. You NEVER know who will stay even if that person has 20 or 5 years experience. And in this ecomony, if I got offered a job as a waitress, I’d take it since I’m thinking the next employer would NOT hire me.  Don’t act so arrogant in what you “know”. I know I don’t know much and I’d like to keep it that way. I don’t want to ever “arrive” and act like I know everything about human behavior or what other people’s motives are. I speak for myself, not others. Your article is a little harsh and others agree with me.

  197. I think this article begs a question. The question is “Who does get employed?”. I think the answer is cronies.

  198. Mr. Heckers,

    I am not sure if I like or dislike your article. Based on your observations and suggestions, I would do very well if I was to interview with you for a job with one exception: experience and salary.

    I am a woman of a “certain age” and I have 20+ years experience in the professional workforce. While I do not look as old old as I am, more often than not, my true age peeks through the facade due to twists and turns that the conversations take during the interview process. As an unemployed person yes, I want/need a job as soon as possible. I am more than willing to “take a cut in pay” if I can find employment closer than 35 miles and an hours commute because it means that I will save on fuel costs AND be closer to home. according to you though, you wouldn’t give me the time of day since you believe that I will take the next best job that comes my way. As that more mature, worldly person that I am, I am smart enough to know that the next set thing will probably NOT come my way and all I’m looking for is a good job with decent benefits that will allow me to support my 10 year old son and myself. Period. End of report.

    How am I, as someone who has been looking for work for 3 months, supposed to maintain a positive attitude when faced with the dire odds that the hiring manager will not even consider a phone interview because I am “over qualified”?

    • I agree completely with Sharon.

      I have done all of the above and more (including volunteering to teach social media to small business owners and other people in career transition). After being laid off from a marketing job almost two years ago, going on countless interviews and having two temp jobs that didn’t last long despite doing everything right (showed up on time, had a pleasant attitude, met all deadlines, etc.), I’ve decided to start my own consulting business.

      I have about 20 years of experience, too.

  199. Good article, John.

    I agree completely, even if it is a bit depressing. Add #19 as it’s quite true. Online presence is tricky. A relation was approached at work to explain what his 17 year old daughter had psoted on Facebook — he had no idea! But it had an impact.

    Yes, for many the job has disappeared or moved away. I was a highly qualified proof of concept creator (software/hardware) in a University — no more money! So I get to be overqualified and no proper focus. But, as you infer “It is what it is, and it doesn’t matter if you did everything right before.

    Now is now.

    I took the advice and immediately formed my own LLC and have been scraping by, and it it is rough out there to be sure. On the side, I’m still here!

    My feeling is to build interesting things, advertise them *tastefully*, and network, network, network. It’s a marathon to be sure — just don’t give up!

    Question, do you feel social media is required — or a waste of time? It does sap a lot of time from polishing the core service.

    Thanks for telling it like it is.

    • But, you didn’t boost your spirits by reading the replies. I again have some faith in humanity by reading that all but one of two posts out of all of these have read through the “heckler’s” nonsense and realize he is just exercising his Ego. Next, all us normal people must join together to get rid of this strange incarnation of a country we are living in. The people who founded this country would have tarred-and-feathered some compliant, smarmy, inherently useless person like the author. I mean, let’s be serious here…what is he actually contributing to society at large (except for costing people hundreds of dollars to up their doses of Xanax after reading this garbage).

  200. #5 sounded like they had the izm (retardizm) when trying to word this. Your asking for to much money so they give an example of someone asking for 30K when they made 70K but they won’t hire them anyway?
    very confusing.

  201. #5 You’re asking too much money.

    While I agree with many of your comments here, I don’t agree this one is fully the problem of the job hunter. I agree salaries are getting lower these days. I’m encountering people that will stop talking to me about a job because of my previous salary even though I do not expect them to match it; depending upon the position I’m expecting a 10 – 20 % cut. But they don’t believe me and cut off the conversation when I disclose my salary. I’ve had to move to not disclosing it even when pushed.

  202. John, fantastic article and I appreciate your tell-it-like-it-is versus tell-it-like-we-want-it sensibility. Thanks for the list and I have gone through your points for some harsh self-examination, tweeking myself from an Employer’s perspective… guess what, I have just become employed!!!

  203. Oh…one more thing. Even if the job you take is at a much lower salary, you WANT to take it and get off of unemployment for the following reasons. 1). There is discrimination against the unemployed by some employers (hey…don’t shoot the messenger…I think it’s stupid and unfair). 2). Congress probably won’t renew extended unemployment for 2012, and 3). You don’t know when the next opportunity will come along. It is always much easier to get employed if you’re already employed.

  204. I have helped several people with Aspergers’ Syndrome in my practice over the years. It is very difficult in this economic climate to have this, or ANY disability (I have a couple of “invisible” disabilities myself, so I truly sympathize). But I’m afraid that, as harsh a reality as this is, life is not fair and employers are not forced to hire you because you have a disability. They wouldn’t probably hire me, either! Unfortunately, the ability to get along with others and communicate well is something vital to most jobs. Extreme introverts, those with various disabilities, and so on may not do this well. We can’t make this a fair world. The best I can suggest is looking into careers in the technical arena where this is not such a large issue. I am sorry that the economic times are effecting you so much, and wish you the best.

    John Heckers

    • John, you are assuming that all people with Aspergers Syndrome are “good” or desire to work in IT or in other technical stuff. You know what happens when you assume, right. You can’t assume this. I do want to work with people and I do get along with people. Not everyone with AS has a temper. What I do not want is a position in sales or something like a bank teller when people constantly come to you (perhaps 14 customers an hour). That is very draining. Please, do not assume again. That is like saying all people with AS should be accountants. I’m looking into Human Resources since it is not customer service. In that profession, you deal with poeple, but not the general public where everyone and their brother comes for help.

    • You seem down on EVERYONE. Get on meds because you’re depressed.

      Duh, people are depressed because they are OUT OF WORK.

      Happy pills to make happy clones, wait I mean drones.

      • Clarence Viercina

        Yes. In our blind and hypnotized country, in order to get a job, you must take antidepressants. Of course! Your depression CERTAINLY could not be caused by the fact that the expectations placed upon you in this horrifying excuse for a civilized country are absolutely unreasonable for 90% of people. No, no, no. It is YOU. You are depressed and MUST take drugs that make you feel even worse (I have been on at least ten different ones – none really work) and take away the most human things about you (such as your ability to feel any pleasure – the down regulation the mesolimbic dopamine system by constant, excessive tonic levels of serotonin renders you into a lab rat with no positive or negative emotions). Nuts.

  205. All valid points. What a depressing, harsh article. The interview system and job market is broken because there is no better alternative. Unemployment is not natural. Everyone who wants a job should be able to find one. People who have not been taught how to look for work should not be blamed for their lack of skills. Why was not this taught in high school instead of calculus or chemistry?

    … and that advice about dealing with anger or depression as if you can take a pill for it or fix it like as if it’s on a to do list?. That’s an ignorant attitude on the part of the author.

    • Sorry you find me “ignorant” James. I just tell it like it is. Yes, there is medication that you can take for depression. We often recommend our clients do so. As for anger….that, I’m afraid, is something you’ll have to deal with.

    • the stubble should not make a difference!!! this is simply judging a book by its cover.. and not looking at the true value of the person in front them!!!

  206. This is a great list, but I’d like to suggest a #19: you’re not online. Googling prospective employees is becoming common practice for many hiring managers. If you’re up against a dozen applicants as qualified as you, what is going to set you apart before you set foot into the interview? Google yourself and see how awesome/terrible your results are. At Vizibility (, we are dedicated to giving job seekers that extra edge in the application game by allowing them to tailor their results (for free!).

  207. What if you have Asperger Syndrome and you don’t sell yourself very well? Do you know how many adults (30 and above) are unemployed or underemployed due to not knowing how to sell themself on an interview? And no to mention that adults with AS usually do not have a large network of honest friends they can turn to for networking and getting jobs. We tend to look for work the old fashioned way, either looking online, or filling out paper applications. It’s sad though, since HR managers do not know the gifts we have to offer employers. We have a host of job skills that many employers would love to have, like doing our job and doing it day in and day out, coming into work ontime. None of this no call no show busienss. Is not this what employers are looking for? Honest people. But when they come into contact with someone honest, they shy the BEST person for the job – away. Due to what? Not networking enough? Please

    • I have helped several people with Aspergers’ Syndrome in my practice over the years. It is very difficult in this economic climate to have this, or ANY disability (I have a couple of “invisible” disabilities myself, so I truly sympathize). But I’m afraid that, as harsh a reality as this is, life is not fair and employers are not forced to hire you because you have a disability. They wouldn’t probably hire me, either! Unfortunately, the ability to get along with others and communicate well is something vital to most jobs. Extreme introverts, those with various disabilities, and so on may not do this well. We can’t make this a fair world. The best I can suggest is looking into careers in the technical arena where this is not such a large issue. I am sorry that the economic times are effecting you so much, and wish you the best.

      John Heckers

  208. My question, HOW MUCH of the less salary bullet should be bitten? I received a call from a recruiter describing a position that I’m more than qualified for with maybe the exception of industry experience, the requirement/expectations far more than what the offered salary.

    • Yes, well. That is, I’m afraid, pretty typical these days. We’re going through the “Great Reset.” Most employers, right or wrong, feel that salaries were hyper-inflated (just like housing) and are offering a, sometimes, FIFTY PERCENT cut from where such positions were before. It is really a law of supply and demand. Unless you believe the $#*)& government (don’t) we’re at about 25%+ unemployment/underemployment. That means that there are lots of people who will take that job if you won’t. Many people in this country are working as UNPAID “interns,” just on the hope that their work will turn into a paid job. It’s BAD out there, folks! I don’t like it anymore than you do! But it IS the reality. The only people making out like bandits are the bandits….the Wall Street traders, the bankers, and other top supporters of our political overlords…ummmm….I mean “leaders”…yeah, “leaders.”

      Remember that the top FOUR HUNDRED Americans have more wealth accumulated than the bottom NINETEEN MILLION Americans. We do not realize the extent of income inequality in this country, nor the way that we are being ripped off by the top. It is a problem, and, as I am nowhere close to being one of that 400 wealthiest Americans, it makes me angry, too. But this IS the current reality. Take the job. You’ve got to pay at least SOME of the bills.

      • You are right about the overvaluing of homes , but wrong in over paying. No one should have to work harder for less. That thinking comes from the cold war era. People want to work. Being a recruiter I have a strong feeling that we are asking the wrong questions, such as What have you been doing since you have been unemployed for 6 month, the answer is, well I have been looking for a job the last 6 months. there are no good jobs, people need to realize most jobs are jobs, not careers, and as far as credit checks are going, peoples credit is getting ruined by not getting a job, that pays enough to pay their bills. People are not going to College because they realize they can;t pay the banks back that loan them the money. If they do go to college they are not getting the jobs that they went to school for. this has been going on for years. banks win again.. It is Pathetic.

      • But then you disqualify everyone who made more money (saying you would not even consider them). Most people would rather make $30,000 than be unemployed you A$$.

        • I agree with all possible suggestions except 3 & 4.. The reason I disagree with num 3 is because neither a piercing nor tattoo defines a persons character. To me that’s being biased if you have a non discrimination policy. Num 4 is just out right ignorant. You shouldn’t judge a person based off appearance IT IS ONLY HAIR. I really dislike 4 because I’m a male who wears dreadlocks and I get dirty looks all the time and by no means am I a gangster, criminal, or dirty. It grows that way because GOD allows it to. WHO ARE YOU TO JUDGE??

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